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TEST P- ANAVAR -CLEN 1st cycle

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HEY guys here is what I'm going to run
testp - 1ml eod for 8 weeks
anavar- 40mg a day 8 weeks
and i got some free clen as a promo so was thinking of running at x1 20mg for 1 week on and 1 week off

1st cycle
weight 73kg
height 5-10
clean diet and training 5 days a week

pct- nolva and clomid

looking to cut up

been training since i was 17 so got a solid back ground in drug free

whats people opinion on the clen dosage on this cycle

TheFlash85's picture

73kgs " cut up "

You will float away in the wind.

Ffs you will be invisible.

Good luck emo kid.

Dont cut up

steveswole83's picture

Whats your diet gonna be like ? But honestly Cutting at your current size is point less. You ll look like a runner instead of a lifter. First cycle I would just run prop and if you feel good after a couple weeks maybe add anavar and if its legit start 20mg ed The clen I wouldn't even run. But honestly if I was you I wouldnt even run gear yet until you put on more size. Most important thing is diet bro gotta eat to grow.

EatTrainEatSleepRepeat's picture

I think you'll be happier with the end result if you hold off from using AAS until you dial your diet down better.

What's your BF% at?

Caeser's picture

Brah! you're getting tore up because ain't giving much info...comes off lazy...

*** "Clean Diet" = what does that mean?
*** "PCT - nolva & clomid" = how much? time frame?
*** You don't post BF%
*** "looking to cut up" = what does that mean?
*** You're 73kg (160lbs) - what are you going to "cut up" to?

You gotta do more research. You gotta come at this board with much clearer thoughts & questions & information... especially outta the gates when you're asking a question of this nature. You're talking using clichés... you're going to have to give more to get the answer(s) you want.

Heed the advice. Tell me to piss off. Whatever.

Simply put; based upon your size & pic and simple goal of "cut up"... I doubt anyone gonna advise anything outside of nutrition/diet.
Godspeed.

EngiBrah's picture

Maybe he doesn't do legs bro

buster123's picture

im 73kg mate

MedDx's picture

Lol

buster123's picture

far from a bean pole son, I've been looking at peoples pics on here who are on steroids and have done many cycles and look no different to a natural man lol

MedDx's picture

It's because they don't eat correctly, for one thing....and the other, is that they don't get bloods and dial in their ancillaries correctly....if u start now and don't add any natty muscle with food, you'll shrink back down to 160-165 and then you'll be all pissed and we'll be like told you so, bro... Smile

MedDx's picture

Lol...hamburger meat brah...get it in ya... Smile

buster123's picture

lol wikid pal looks like your profile pic says alot about u lol

MedDx's picture

I sent u a pm if u wanna spout out at the mouth take it up with me fool...you ain't that cool, brah.. Smile

MedDx's picture

ROTFLMFAO

buster123's picture

enjoy your evening pal x

MedDx's picture

You give up too easy...

buster123's picture

the test prop will add some more muscle on. I'm not looking to bulk up or be big just looking for a little boost as I've been natural all my life, I'm going for that trim summer look.

whats with all the negativity anyways ?

felony's picture

At the end of the day its not negativity. Its guys with far more experience then you offering sound advice. Free advice by the way. Humble yourself a little come back with a better attitude and these same guys will help you move in the right direction. Also AAS are not for that trim summer look. Good luck.

Makwa's picture

The prop isn't going to magically add any muscle to your frame. You still have to eat enough to provide the building blocks it needs to build the muscle. Running a cut, is not going to build muscle since you are inherently in a calorie deficit. I think you are giving the steroids to much credit here. Than can only so much and that is under the right circumstances. What I see happening here is really no change in body comp due to lack of diet knowledge. In fact you will probably end up worse off, because now you have shut down your HPTA and have to recover from that. That can be tough and you will likely regress with the limited base you have the limited understanding of how your diet will dictate what happens. Keeping it real for you. See it time and time again. You will be taking 1 step forward and 2 steps back.

MedDx's picture

X2 well put

buster123's picture

why wouldn't i last 2 weeks lol? I'm a natural i think your forgetting, if i was to hammer the steroids like you I'm sure i would be massive, but I'm not looking to look like a steroid head, just doing a course for a small boost, if you cant reply with a decent conversation don't reply , simple !

Jayzgainz's picture

This is a room full of steroid heads your forgetting. If you wanted to just post things up and have people tell you how smart you are this was definitely the wrong choice of venues. You say your natty so stay that way. Sounds like ego is inflated because of that as is.

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Makwa's picture

I'm not looking to look like a steroid head, just doing a course for a small boost,

I would recommend some creatine with ample BCAA's and a periodized training program if that is what you are after. Going to be much easier on the body and probably should be able to keep the gains if you eat right.

buster123's picture

I'm back on the creatine and bcaa as we speak buddy, diet is good and strict cheat meal on weekend only.

Makwa's picture

Roll with it for a month or two and report back on progress.

Drock_357's picture

What exactly are you trying accomplish with this cycle?......

buster123's picture

lean up

Drock_357's picture

Lol...thats pretty specific..
Look, you do not take steroids to lean out.....they are for assisting the muscle building process provided nutritional requirements are met...enhancing protein synthesis, ....so a calorie surplus is where you need to be when running aas, ...leaning out is your goal correct l?...that requires a calorie deficit as I'm sure you know, so why would you use aas?.......do the pros and stage guys use them in a cut, yes...but they r already single digit % and trying to drop that last 1 or 2% ......there is no reason the average gym rat needs to use gear in a cut situation imo.....get your diet and training in sync there is no reason you can't lean out to the 10-12% natty....personally I don't see a need for you to lean out at 160# but to each their own,....

Gettingbig's picture

I wanted to say that but didn't want to type it all thanks +1

mini muscle's picture

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buster123's picture

??

mini muscle's picture

I typed out a long reply and thought fuck it, we've seen so many of you yolo boys throw your toys when guys give advice that the post becomes a shit show and feelings get hurt so I deleted it.

My advice is at 74kg and wanting to "cut up" and get lean you do not need steriods. You need nutritional knowledge and a training program that supports training in a calorie deficit = you'll get lean and cut up.

buster123's picture

look on my profile I've uploaded a pic of me hope this help and any comments would be grateful. my pic is gear free

daksmack's picture

Clen isn't a good idea if your 160 broski. Take everyone's advice....

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grawrruff's picture

You don't need to eat clen, you need to eat food.

MedDx's picture

X2...get OP to post an unidentifiable pic...lol.. Smile

grawrruff's picture

It's like Anne Frank saying she wants to go on a diet...smh

Makwa's picture

You are already a walking skeleton, what are you planning to cut up?

buster123's picture

hey dude look on my profile I've uploaded a pic of me hope this helps

yea trim up

MedDx's picture

Zero mg for clen...imo...don't use it...

Research first cycles and since this is your first cycle you need to post dosages, frequencies and length of time for a cycle as well as PCT. Help us...help you... Smile

Stats
Age: 29
Height: 5.10
Weight: 74
BF:

Post BF% and post an unidentifiable pic

buster123's picture

hey dude thanks for the reply.

bf around 14 id say haven't done a accurate reading yet
how can i upload a pic broski?

I've done a fair bit of research thing is the internet is a weird thing because many people say different things but I've read that clean goes well with it, i made a order for anavar and received these free ;-)

in 1st post i had posted the dosages and times etc

cheers guys

MedDx's picture

Just because it's free, doesn't mean you have to use it...you need to be careful when your experimenting with drug combinations. We push safety, health and a positive environment here...if sound advice is given by vets, take heed what it's said... Smile

buster123's picture

thanks brother