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Test only at 1000mg or combined stack at 1000mg total?

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Anyone run a comparison of a back to back cycle of 1000mg Test only vs a stack of say Test 333mg, Primo 333mg and Mast 333mg? Does one result in better results, better labs, less side effects? If there's already discussion to this please let me know. Thanks

CRAZY DOSER's picture

It’s hard to give you a definitive answer because it’s not clear what your experience with AAS, whether you’ve done any previous cycles or what your exact goals are.

In general, a test-only cycle is more straightforward to manage. It tends to produce stronger overall effects, but at the same time it brings side effects. Such as a significant increase in E2 levels and water retention.

A cycle with multiple components you've mentioned leads to less side effects. Primo and Masteron aromatize far less than Test, especially at 1000 mg. The mix you mentioned is more suitable for gaining lean mass.

Pandateston's picture

1g test 1g tren 1g mast
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In my experience it all depends what you choose to stack together, as your goal, tolerance for sides and capacity to respond to the compounds… it’s hard to give you a black and white answer. But IMO, take advantage of drug synergies is the greatest strategy in this game.

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press1's picture

In my experience it all depends what you choose to stack together, 1 gram of Test isn't as amazing as people think it would be. Something like 400mg Test, 400mg Deca and 30mg DBol per day will get you bigger and stronger. Test just by itself will still leave your joints feeling pretty crappy if you like to lift heavy.

irongame427's picture

Well, I’ll preface this by saying your profile says you’re new to this so I wouldn’t be going anywhere near those kinda doses. It’s just not necessary for good gains in the beginning, and sometimes even long term.

But, it’s a good question. For muscle gain it seems to be more about total anabolic load than individual compounds. So you’ll gain roughly the same amount of muscle with either option. Certain compounds have other effects though, more or less bloat, changes in how the muscle looks, increases in vascularity, joint pain relief, greater increases in strength etc. and then there’s side effects. Test can be a bad one for sides at higher doses, between its conversion to estrogen and DHT. Someone sensitive to estrogen related sides would likely fair much better on the test primo mast stack than a straight gram of test.

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I've been on TRT for 15 years and tolerate Test very well and don't convert much estrogen, if anything I have trouble keeping my estrogen up. I've run 700 of Test spread out on daily injections and only needed 0.25 of Ansastrzol every 10-14 days or so, which bottoms out my estradiol for several days. But I didn't notice too much difference between 300 of Test and 700 of Test in terms of strength and vascularity. Adding 300mg of Primo to the 300mg of Test significantly improved vascularity and improved fullness, so I see what you're saying - Either way seemed to drive my blood pressure up some.

Thanks for the replies!