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Test e Tren e Question.

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I have been away for a while but I am back with a few questions...

I am running Test/Tren 500mgea/week for 8 weeks, I have 4 weeks left to my planned cycle and had a question about dosaging and adding winstrol. So far I have noticed gains in strength and sprinting speed, but not much in size(trying to stay around maint calories, my goal is strength and quality muscle), I dont wanna see my bodyweight go up anymore.

1) I have been told running test/tren at same dosage is unwise and that I should increase my test dosage. I have extra test e on hand, so question is do you think i should increase test e dosage to 750?

2) If I wanted to add Winstrol at the end I have either 1 10ml vial of 50mg/ml injectable(white & Milky looking) or 50 25mg caps. Could I add both or is one or the other preferred?

3) If adding winstrol do I run untill pct starts or stop with test/tren?

4) I have nolva, clomid, hcg for PCT, using arimidex 0.5mg eod, nolva 20mg/day, sensitive nipples but no gyno present. This was more of a guinea pig experiment for the myth of progesterone enduced gyno. Conclusion so far, In order for gyno estrogen must be present and high, if you control estrogen, you control gyno.

This is my fourth cycle, I have Experiences with, Test e only 650mg, Test e 650mg + Dbol50mg, Test c 600mg + Deca 600mg + Winstrol orals 50mg/day. I definitely still consider myself an amateur, I started too young before I had access to the online world of advice. I am open to any criticism and suggestions. This is my last cycle for a few years, I have other priorities in life that dont involve diciplined AAS usage. I am looking to use up the last bit of gear which is why i want to add winstrol.

Thanks in advance.

Cheers~

Kyroxin's picture

okay stats.. and ill explain a little more.

23, 6'3", 210lb
deadlift 455
squat 325
bench 245

I realize that I started too young(as stated in my post), but cant change that now. When I started lifting I was 19 years old, 6'3" 140lbs, had some issues with eating, I was unhealthily underweight. I started to eat and lift, with little knowledge, making shity progress but still progress. After a year I was 160, feeling healthy and athletic. I wanted more strength so started to lift heavy, managed to go up another 10 to 170. I was introduced to aas at this point from a friend, I didnt know much, didnt research, it was free he sounded like he knew what he was talking about. after my first cycle i was 190 feeling invinsible, sadly I didnt understand post cycle and how important it is so a few weeks after it ended i was 175. Then I learned about dieting. Since then I did 2 cycles and kept 12-15lbs gains from each.

I am not a bodybuilder, I train for performance, my goal WAS to increase strength with cycles, knowing fully well it will affect my cardio. I realize even at 23 Im too young for AAS(hence why i mentioned stopping after this cycle for a few years), but didn't feel like throwing away my gear its expensive where I come from.

@revenge85, no offense taken, i know your advice is legit, having caber at 2 days notice seemed safe enough for me, thanks for advice

Catalyst's picture

Lets get some stats up in here please, see what we are dealing with.

Kyroxin's picture

okay thanks revenge, I hear so many people say test higher then lots of others say tren higher, can you explain why you recommend tren higher?

You think its best to stop the cycle and hit pct now? Caber is 2 day delivery from my source, so I can have it when needed.

TheFlash85's picture

you don't neccasarily have to stop your cycle completely, maybe continue with just test, the reason tren is ran higher than test is because tren is a lot stronger in its affinity to bind to the receptors, meaning tren will dominate test and fight to occupy them, so more test is a waste, also people run tren higher than test to avoid side affects, this is just my opinion and what I believe from my research and experience, more people may chime in and say this isn't the case, but in actuality its the truth. now when running nandrolone that's another story, test is ran higher. yes order some caber bro, you could start to lactate at any time, you can still have issues with your nipples even if estrogen is low- my mate was lactating black liquid recently even with ancillaries, better to be safe than sorry mate

Kyroxin's picture

okay thanks again revenge, I'll certainly grab the caber asap to be safe.

Im unsure why you insist on me dropping the tren, I have no sides yet, running at same dosage as test. You recommend tren at higher dose so couldnt I just lower my test dosage instead of dropping the tren all together?

Also, Im curious as to why labs would produce TNT400(250test e 150tren e) if you are supposed to dose tren higher than the test?

Sorry to bug you with all the questions I just want to fully understand before I start throwing out gear(after this cycle Im giving all my leftover gear to a friend for free),
Thanks for your patience,
Cheers.

EDIT: When I say I have no sides, I mean unwanted sides. Sides like mood and acne are clear.

TheFlash85's picture

because your 23 years old, your saying you have run a ton of compounds, and your clearly not ready for tren mate no offense, if you were you would have run itcorrectly with proper ancillaries ( atleast inhand)

TheFlash85's picture

tren should be higher than test mate, not the other way around, I would not be adding other compounds, id just hit pct if I were you, sounds a bit like a dogs breakfast, also you should get yourself some caber, may not have symptoms rite now but you might have trouble later on.

Kyroxin's picture

CORRECTION: Cycle will be 12 weeks, I just finished week 8, wanting to add winstrol for weeks 9,10,11,12.