posted Sun, 06/11/2017 - 12:19
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i just finished my first cycle of test e, dbol, and winstrol and it was very successful i started my pct today, and I'm going to run test e, dbol, and deca on my 2nd cycle, I'm mainly just wanting to know anyones experience with this cycle i hear you can put on a great amount of size and strength witch is my goal, how much size and strength can i expect and i will have my diet in place in order to gain weight ofcoarse, what is your experience?
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Insane,
since you just started PCT I'd suggest you reconsider the cut. I'd keep working out hard and eat at maintenance.
PCT is hard on the body and the mind, and less than ideal time for cutting.
check this out
https://www.eroids.com/forum/steroids-qa/pct-anti-estrogens/how-to-succe...
thank you for your help brother
And the truth shall set you free.... to paraphrase..........
12 week cycle: 6 weeks bulking with test E and DBOL, 6 weeks winnie, is now in PCT and now on a CUT
On a cut!
"I started at 180 ended at 205 test e 500 ml a week 12 weeks, dbol kickstart 30 mg a day 4 weeks, winstrol last 6 weeks 50 mg a day"
Crikey!
Feeding trolls is bad mkay.
:).. you're crackin me up lol
You got the reaction you did for a reason mate.....maybe sit back for a minute and think things through take onboard some of what is being said.
Good luck. ;)
Why the fuck does no one have patience any more. You are gonna do better with a solid diet than all this bullshit. But...too many youtube videos listening to fucks talking about all the bullshit they take or say they take and all the gains they get its bullshit. "Hey shoot 1gm of deca into your balls then sit back and watch your muscles grow. You dont even have to lift bro. Then give yourself a dbol enema. Fuckin best preworkout ever" and assholes would do it cus they cant wait to be big, but cant take a few hours on Sunday afternoon to cook up a bunch of meals for the week.Fucking generation of lazy, do it for me, I cant do shit on my own wanna be meatheads.
YOLO!!
The fact that so many people mock this expression makes me wonder how many people actually believe in reincarnation. After all, if we don't live once, how many times do we live?
Well if you have an interest in quantum physics it could be that we live forever if you consider that we are made from things that existed millions of years ago, long before we existed (oooooooh!!), or if interested in dimensional theories, it could be that there are many we's
Personally my beliefs are very simple and fall in line with what we do know about physics and the universe... we dont die, we change, simples. Considering we are all made from stardust so to speak!.... our atoms could easily end up in someone elses body, therefore at a most basic level.... YOU could be walking around within other people already, never-mind reincarnation.
Religious ideas on reincarnation are nonsensical though, it's gotta be said!
Simply put, existing is not the same as loving. An atom per se is non living; a cell is living. Atoms cannot die; cells can. And do. Inevitably.
Well...
Living and death are completely subjective (to humans) terms.
Everything has a half life and everything descends into chaos (aka death per the human description) therefore an atom/armchair/dog/universe do live and die!
However, we also know things can spontaneously come in and out of existance, in quantum physcis, so do things ever actually stop existing at all? Is nothing nothing? Logically yes, logically no, depending on your perspective
You just hurt my head. :(
LOL
Blame Prof Jim Al Khalili - I'm hooked on his docu's!
good point!
Yup fuck it..
I guess your right
D-Bol enema here I come
YOLO!
just make sure its injectable LOL
*i will have my diet in place in order to gain weight *
Implying you do not now... which means you have no business in running AAS. This is madness..... You are 26 and in my opinion should wait another year to consider this to be sure your brain has finished developing. Running dbol and winstrol on a first cycle is absolutely ridiculous because bulk/cut cycle is a load of nonsense unless using extreme measures, and the bulk effects of the first part make the winstrol effects completely unrecognisable - SO for you, a learner, it makes it IMPOSSIBLE to understand what the compounds you are ingesting are doing to YOU individually OR how to effective recover from individual and combined compunds*.
Everything you have stated proves you have done no real research, and are completely unsuitable to use AAS at present. You need to sort your diet/lifestyle out, learn how to research and when successful at both and having waited at least a year, consider looking to create an intelligent, effective, optimal, minimum effectively dosed AAS cycle.
*Implying you do not now * hello there idiot! I am currently on a cut so my diet is aimed at losing body fat at the moment, so if you are implying that I should be eating in a surplus of calories year round tells me 2 things you are a fucking fat ass, and you my friend need to let your brain further develop, as for me running dbol with winstrol I did plenty of research and the cycle was very successful great gains with minimal side effects.
RustyhookerNeg 2. Im sure more will come
Don't cry! Im no idiot!
if you are implying that I should be eating in a surplus of calories year round
Nope not implying that at all! Strange thing to say!
You said you are now on PCT for your 1st cycle of test e, dbol, winstrol as if that is logical, you back that up by saying you are now on a cut.
Your response seems well tied to your (real) age and my prev statements. You dont appear able to regulate behaviour and critically asses what people are saying to you which is a shame, because there is a lot to be learned.
You are on a cut in the middle of PCT..............????????????????????????????????????????????
YOLO!
Are you still getting your meals for around 7 dollars...you don't cook, right?
Gearhead is that you? The tone and the way you write sounds just like GearHead.
Now now, be nice
I am going to guess that we have very different personality types.
From looking at some of your other posts, you seem quite empathetic/welcoming/polite etc. which I respect greatly. I may be misinterpreting, but thats what i have seen so far...
I am more of of an estj on the Briggs Myers scale and might come across as authoratative, concerned only with fact (or what i call fact) and extremely direct in my comms.
Our personality types tend to clash in that they often dont see things from each others perspective. So what I would say to you is this If you see me post something like the above, try to read, if you are bothered, with no emotion because I type it with none, so tone etc, other than sarcasm here and there kind of doesnt translate at all. You might to see a different picture in terms of critically looking at what I say/the info I might present or the questions I ask. (ever had a row over text with your Mrs. where she just didnt get what you were say8ing, over text?! - happens all the time to people via text email etc.)
Im not Gearhead, not sure who he is, sorry and I do cook, taught my Mrs to cook, she is still crap, I still cook...... ugh!.
Its not gearhead bro.
I thought that a few months back.
This guy started back in 2014.
Im starting to like this guys style in some parts of forum.
Also if you check his gear reviews etc.
We all know gearhead worked/ shilled and sucked off only one source.
Okay...
Cheers Flash
Yo MedDx: This chap is saying he finished first cycle,
6 weeks bulking with test E and DBOL, 6 weeks winnie, is now in PCT and on a CUT
Everything I have said to him stands and is true as far as I can see it
To me, there is no point in sugarcoating this sort of stuff.. This is dangerous stuff and I absolutely do not believe the dude is 26. So now it becomes dangerous to not be brutally honest, in my opinion.
maybe you should be planning the second PCT?
deca can be a bitch to recover from
well how was your experience with deca? did you run it wrong or something, and for anyone wondering I will be running the deca at 300 mg a week.
Seriously, it was the worst recovery ever.
It has metabolites that linger for months.
Lots of guys struggle to recover from a cycle of it
RustyhookerSold! Cosigned second cycle to the guy in front row. Winnah winnah! 3cc bruh!
In reference to this cycle, not a second cycle.
I needed that this morning lol
Here I am feeing skinny at 220lb and 5'9! I'd be a twig at 190.... never mind the extra couple inches lol
What's your bulking diet look like? 1,200 calories?
Holy shit, yet another one. Not surprising by any means. How much did you weigh before cycle? I was a young stupid ass that started at 175, but dammit I was 205 after PCT with test only.
RustyhookerAnother dummy.....
Im not helping yolo 3cc krew
What if he said he was adding tren a at the end to cut? Would you have helped him then? Lol its all thats missing for a second cycle for someone six feet tall and weighing an astonishing 190.
RustyhookerMaybe i was too harsh... my bad.
Go sit in the corner and kick rocks for 30 minutes. That should cover it.
RustyhookerOr I'll just watch him get cosigned....ooops! Too late ^^^^up top
Lol...this makes the forum even better...real life humor you can't get anywhere else but here...
RustyhookerLike the sands thru the hour glass...these are...The Days of Our Lives
Haha
Looks like an awful first cycle. I wouldn't exactly call 190 at 6'3" a roaring success. That would be unacceptable natty, much less after a cycle.
I started the cycle at 180 lean ended it at 205 still lean, what would you consider successful?
You should post a pic. Lean 205 is not bad at all for a 6ft 3 dude
I definantly will when I figure out how to post pics on here, I work so I cant really get on here much
Way too many compounds. You just started PCT so you don't even know if you will full recover from your first ridiculous cycle. You will need post cycle bloods to compare to the pre cycle bloods that I'm sure you had done.
How long was first cycle?
What did you use as an AI?
How long was the Dbol run?
Problems with estrogen ? How did you deal with it?
Was the winstrol oral? Was the Dbol oral? If so why two orals?
What did you use for liver support?
What was your starting weight and body fat?
When will you be having post cycle bloods pulled to compare to your pre cycle bloods?
What are you using for PCT and at what doses?
Edit: I just looked at your stats again your six foot three and 190???
look bro I haven't updated my stats lately I started at 180 ended at 205 test e 500 ml a week 12 weeks, dbol kickstart 30 mg a day 4 weeks, winstrol last 6 weeks 50 mg a day, anostrazole .25 mg eod pct clomed and nolvadex 4 weeks, whats next are you gonna tell me I'm gonna die now lol I am truly shocked at how little help ppl on this forum are lol seems like you guys enjoy insulting ppl rather then actually being helpful to the situation, I'm gonna do what I want either way just saying, atleast be helpful!
The questions where asked to see if you knew the answers not to insult. As far as not updating your stats that's your responsibility. When I got to the part that said you were going to do what you wanted either way it made me realize that no one here is going to be able to help you. I'm out. Good luck.
I want to copy your post to my clipboard I could just make a couple of adjustments and post it to all these crazy ass cycle questions
+1
Lol