posted Mon, 09/10/2012 - 04:13
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Test E conversion ????
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I figured I would bounce this question of you cats because you seem to be pretty knowledgeable. Does anyone know what the rate of conversion is as oppose to utilization of test. The reason why I pose this question is because if the body is only capable of utilizing a specific amount of test at a certain rate and what is not utilized is floating around gets converted to estrogen, then why use a higher dose, (let's say 500mg )if we can get the same results at a lesser dose of 250 or 300mg's. Which I'm thinking would eliminate the buildup of estrogen and increases in other levels and make for a more productive cycle. Comments please....
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AnonAppreciate that info man. So its keep the levels constant, diet, cardio, rest and hit the weights hard if you want to grow. Damn, I guess to a point it is hit or miss however, careful planning and execution equals success. How much success depends on just that. My wife says it's like putting money in the bank and withdrawing it to get what you want. If you leave it there it does nothing for ya. Leave it to a woman to draw that analogy. lol Be well man!!!!
AnonHey Z, I appreciate that breakdown brother. I'm taking that you are referring to testosterone that is not in a bound state (ie free testosterone). So then the administration of Proviron would help to free up more testosterone thus making it available for utilization. So let me ask you Z,is there anyway to determine if there is an actual time frame or lets say ( window ) that we have to utilize that test in order to achieve quality mass or lets say maximize the benefits of that test?? Or is it just hit and miss????
zewi"if there is an actual time frame or lets say ( window ) that we have to utilize that test in order to achieve quality mass or lets say maximize the benefits of that test?? Or is it just hit and miss????"
Yes---Hope i can explain this were it makes sense.
lets say your taking Test 1-12 @ 500mg a week (split)
Well if you do this your blood levels are stable, you have 12 weeks +2 extra weeks to get the full benefit of the cycle.
However, if you looking per shot, as soon as you give yourself a shot your blood levels will rise, but come around day 7 they are at their high point and then start to decline after that..
So in short when it comes to test E you have 7 days---after that, it goes down hill---thats why its so important to keep blood levels stable and equal.
So your body is constant and has more than enough of that floating test--that your receptors can grab.
zewiFree testosterone is the only usable form of testosterone available for muscle growth.
However, only about 2 percent of testosterone in the normal male is free testosterone.
What your saying is true. You could take 250mg a week(is the top amount per week for TRT), and if you eat right and work hard you will have good libido and look in good shape. However, if you want to grow, and you work hard in the gym the more "Free testosterone" you have the bigger you can get.
That's why i never go over 500mg--im good at 245lbs 6 feet and 9% BF.. However, if i want to grow more muscle s bigger and faster--well take either test longer--or up the dosage. However, you have to work hard enough to use it. If you don't you loose that free test. and it will turn to estro.
However, the reason i don't like dec, is deca speeds up the process of free test turning into estro. Aromasin and Adex block that process.
hope that helps.
Great response Zewi.
245 @ 9%...sounds like the carb cutter is working bro!..get a pic up show the noobs whos teaching them!
zewijust for you brother. Ill get one up in the next day or two.. Have to put it up after arm day..lol
carb cutter is working bro---yes it is thanx to you.
cool bro! its all good for the cycles boards to build confidence into anybody that takes advice imo... running just below 8% myself at moment! glimpsed myself in the mirrors at the gym yesterday and thought "who the fuck is that monster" lol... not been in this good shape since last comp 18mths ago... still same body weight but with BF drop, so in reality made some solid lean mass gain so am very happy!
cdaddy7Damn Z, excellently put