posted Mon, 07/23/2012 - 12:46
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started my test-e 250 and var cycle last night...i will write a review on the gear once im done..
but was looking for alil help im trying to burn some fat ...
Primobolan- i heard is a nice agent for cutin cycle but its $$
Masteron- is anohter one but its a weaker form of primo isnt it ??
and then there always tren e...i wonder if im ready for that...
here my cycle as we speak
6'1 279lb (yes im a big boy)
1-12 test e 250 ( twice weekly 500mg)
1-6 var (50mg ed)
1-12 arimadex ( 1mg oed)
over the counter ECA (ed)
diet is on point low carbs
work out 6 days a work (40-60 min of cardio ed)
workout 2 muscle groups a day..
also ive lost 54 lb since jan 01 ,2012
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tread-mYeah just the test as 48 has here. The reason in part you want one at a time is that you want to learn your own body and how it responds to each compound. If you do so you end up having a much easier time with your goals over time and knowing which compounds to use and how to use them for your own needs. By running test and var first round you reallly learn nothing for your future gear use. You do:'t have any idea of cause of your progress or lack there of.
So for example, you run test first, the base for all cycles, you learn the specific reactions to test and then next round when you add var you know what benefit is from var and what's from test. Later down the road you may run 3 or 4 compounds based on this same add only one at a ttime thought. As you move through your gear life you get to each cycle with very specific goals and know exactly what to run to achieve those goals with your diet etc because you learned them all "Properly". This is what seperated the very high success with someone who is very well informed and the guy that has always just thrown together a bunch of compounds hoping they do what he wants and realizing he never really has any control. Then of course through the whole process you begin to learn different abilities through combinations and the importance of learning those individual compounds becomes more important. So I agree with the rest here, test only, dial in the diet BIGTIME on carbs and very clean to the goal. You're doing the work and making progress so keep that coming and this will be a really good experience for you.
If you are just dead set on var and not going to be talked out of it then I personally pull it now and continue pounding the bf down. Var works better and better as bf drops so you hammer the diet and then bring it in for the last 4-6 weeks of cycle to help solidify the gains and have it work better knowing you are going to fight that bf down lower between now and then. Again, I leave it out in your situation but if not this is my route as opposed to an opener.
NICE JOB ON YOUR BF LOSS SO FAR BTW, VERY IMPRESSIVE SO PLUS 3 JUST FOR BEGINNING TO UNDERSTAND HOW IMPORTANT DIET IS!
Side note...drink a LOT of water on this cycle and limit salt bigtime to help keep the water off, bp down and better quality run.
thanks for the 3...hated being a 5. lol.......
im going to drop the var this weeks and start it back up at the end of my cycle...so 1-12 will be test
10-14 will be var 50mg ed
also 500 iu of hcg weekly 1-12
i have arimadex 1mg e3d
im not going to add winny hate when my joints dry out....
and as for tren ill wait for my next cycle ...
also wanted to ask whats the shortest time to be on tren e...is 5 weeks to short
tread-mYes too short on T-E. I would wait till much further down the road on tren and when the time comes I would begin with tren ace. Way down the road when you have gone trough some compounds and the time for tren arrives you could come back here and discuss the run and what's best to use with it etc. I think its quite a few cycles away IMO, too many things to capitalize on between now and then with great benefit.
25 years old...
only ran a winny cycle when i was younger
so i thought test and var for a 1st timer wouldnt be bad
Running a simple first cycle of
1-12 test e/cyp with ai and pct will get fast gains. Your diet dictates lean or bulky to a degree. The big problems is if your body fat is high....you risk high bp and fighting off estro. Easiest when around 12% bodyfat. Whats your goals?
240lb.. between 12-15% body fat
Typical first run of just test works if diet is clean. Guessing then its to cut so use the var for 6Weeks.....end it 2days before pct starts.
You also need clomid and nolva for pct. Clomid 100...100...50...50(mgs/day for that week) nolva 40...40...20...20.
$tart pct two Weeks after last injection. Run ai til pct. 12 week cycle...week 14 is pct for four weeks
yea sorry for that my pct is the same way you posted ..for 3 weeks ..
Standard is four to be safe...but its your call. Good luck cutting!
I would run test prop instead of test e and var @80mgs ed. and run it the last 6 weeks instead of the first 6 weeks
tread-mI don't like a var opener I'd do different things here really but age and cycle history would be a nice help.
I just lost 130 pounds in the last 9 months and I did a test E anavar cycle as well with low carbs and my weight loss actually slowed down...I am pretty sure it was from water ret, but i kinda stayed the same weight and just got harder and stronger...I think tren would cut fat better than Var but thats just my Opinion.
Dang Wolf, is 130 lbs a typo ?
No typo..."New Man"
Good for you bro
Thanks brother:)
Yea that's awesome man.. I gotta get my bf back down myself..