posted Fri, 06/20/2014 - 14:30
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Tbol as a 6 Week Finisher
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Hey guys just wanted some opinions on using tbol as a finisher I got 6 weeks left in my cycle and so far my gains have been awesome I'm in week 10 the last week of tren and I feel like im starting to plateau like my body has become to used what I'm on and gains are not progressing. I haven't used tbol before just want some opinions on adding it to the end of a cycle thanks.
My is Cycle
Anavar Kicker 1-8 Weeks 60mg ED
Tren E 10 Week @ 400mg
Test E 16 Weeks @ 250mg
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PCT.Bloods and regroup. Make sure you continue to eat like a champion and train and you will hold most of it. Next time post a cycle plan with goals and let us help you get further before you plateau. good luck!
AnonDon't bother with the tbol. Give the liver a break bro. Chalk this up as a learning experience. The drop in energy and gains could also just be that you came off the Var as well. Get some labs and switch up your routine a bit. See what happens.
Bro even on steroids you can only gain so much. Your body will plateau its lean mass on drugs just as it does naturally.
Just cause you're on gear doesn't mean you're gonna keep gaining. As far as your tbol, nah man give yourself a break. You seem like you're new to the game anyway.
Ok Ok just thinking out loud here, so 8+6 equals 14, so wait a minute, did he just say 14 weeks of orals? wait let me just read that again, yeah I think he did. Should I answer this post? ah damn there that new thread about being nice and all. and my wife always says if you dont got nothing nice to say dont say nothing at all. So I guess im out.
Listen to this man. 14 weeks total of orals is way to much! This is a marathon not a sprint bro.
Dang bro, no. No tbol. U should have finished with the var not wasted it as a kicker. How is your water intake?
What are u using as a DA with the Tren and how much? You need to increase your caloric intake incrementally as you move from this point in the cycle to its conclusion. Any AI use? How is your E2? What did the mid cycle blood test say? 10 weeks of Tren E - that's gonna be with u for a while. Are you feeling tired or fatigued at all?
What is your cycle history? I hope it's vast with a 10 week Tren run currently. What's your PCT layout?
I know I should have used the var at the end i got impatient and wanted a kicker while i waited for the test e and tren e to fully saturate. Water intake has been poor was a gallon a day to start now its half that just got lazy i guess. I am on aromasin 12.5mg ed I take prami .25 ed before bed. I don't have my levels checked so i don't know my e2 levels (gonna get this done next week). The last 2 weeks i have been feeling tired and fatigued. I got HCG going to hit 500iu a week 4 weeks before I start PCT going to do Nolva 40/40/20/20 (can't use clomid shit fucks me up).
Also the purpose of this cycle was to cut so i wasn't expecting huge gains but my strength gains were progressing every week up untill the last 2 weeks they have plateaued. Diet went from 2600 cals a day till I hit 10% was 13% to start then the last 3 weeks i been eating at maintenance about 4 days a week 3050 cals a day the rest of the week around 2600 cals.
Diet consist of mainly fish brown rice broccoli , chicken breast, lean pork loins, greek yogurt, cottage cheese, protien shakes, mixed veggies, avacados, pecans and almonds and a cheat meal once a week usually pizza. I have gone pretty low carb through out this cycle (I am sensitive to carbs)
Protien intake about 250-300grams a day
Carbs low days 115grams high days 200grams
Fats - 80grams to 120grams
Stats:
Bodytype: Endo meso
Height: 5'8
Weight: 195
BF%: 10%
Cycle History:
1 cycle test cyp 500mg /week 12 weeks
2 cycle test cyp 500mg /week 12 weeks Anavar 60mg weeks 1-8
3 cycle test prop 300mg/week (50mg ED) Tren Ace 300mg (50mg ED) Weeks 1-8
On cycle 4 now the one in my first post.
Now also i did my first 2 cycles at age 25 and 26 got up to about 215 at 14% bf then got a hernia had surgery stopped lifting for a half the year. 27 trained naturally half the year then at age 28 I hit tren and prop finally got all ripped up and hard. But then i had to move to another country for a half year for my work and scheduling fucked up training and i slowly lost some gains but not all and now I'm back now at what i was at 28 and then some.
Anyways my concern is my strength has plateaued and I'm fatigued even though I have increased my cals to maintenance I have tbol kicking around and I am wondering if i should hit that for 6 weeks, will it add to any gains or be wasted. Cheers all open to any suggestions about my current cycle pct or anything. thx.
Did you know that Tren can screw with your T3 levels. How bad it is varies by individual. So with Tren induced lower T3 you get all the symptoms of hypothyroidism only one of which is fatigue.
Ya I did know that don't think thats the case as I'm still leaning out weekly metabolism seems fine but thanks guys for ur input I won't abuse my liver no tbol for me I'll save it for next years cycle and I'll increase cals and carbs and ride this cycle out right I think I'm just burnt out abit trensomnia don't help either. I will also know more when I get my blood test next week cheers.
I have a feeling you're not going to get to many answers.
LMAO, yeah, but every so often u get someone solid. So, give it a little time, before closing the book so to speak.
Best to put your stats in your post.
Just looking at what you said, it seems like the issue is diet. Food is the key, not more drugs. Post up your your diet and let's see why your not gaining anymore, before we/you recommend more gear.
Exactly, the answer is staring him dead smack in the face, you drop your food intake and try and substitute aas for it you get nothing. Lowering food intake equals no fuel for your muscles so therefore strength takes a beating; Upping carbs/protein calories equals upping energy and strength.