I see the other guys told you about pct. The bottom line is that you have some powerful stuff in that test e and those dbols and youust respect what they "do" to your body chemistry. Yes they help with protein synthesis and with a solid diet and intense kick ass workouts you will see some great results but they will also shut you down. You need to detox and clear your receptor sites just as much as you need water, food, and sleep....the deal with AAS is you commit to do it then you must follow through especially when it comes to PCT.
Research and correct your pct. Timing and Mg levels. Go search first time cycle in forums. Lists hcg and how to. Then tell us why clomid n nolva and hcg so we know you understand. Looks like you're piecing....you should fully understand everything and why. These medications can help/harm you.
Thanks buddy! He's close but i can see he's grasping. Forums....he can learn how and why in just a few hours. You're correct on pct ;). Im going outta town so hope this works for him.
id like to here someone elses opinion on the 3 week before pct thing...2 is pretty popular around here, at 3 weeks ur gonna start feeling like shit... imo just sayin
ok think what you want. so i guess you wait 2 weeks after you finish a hypothetical prop only cycle too?!?! no you wouldnt. pct depends on the esters that you were taking. if you mean by popularity- that so many people run the same pct is that they are possibly running similar cycles. just because a shit ton of people run pct the same way does not mean its right. if you new how to calculate half-lifes then you would know this, and how to do a correct pct depending on half-lifes of esters. thats why you run pct depending on what compounds you just finished running, if you were on say 1.2 grams of test cyp per week with 800+ mg of deca per week, 600 mast pw, would you run the pct the same ways as say just a simple 6 weeks test prop 100mg eod cycle?!?! fuck no you wouldnt. you would run it totally different.
and no you wouldnt start to feel like shit, you would still have more test in your system than you naturally would be producing, as i have stated below learn half-lifes of esters/compounds and you will understand. what about the people who get trt? and only get shots every few weeks? are they going tot feel like shit 3 weeks after a injection? no
"what about the people who get trt? and only get shots every few weeks? are they going tot feel like shit 3 weeks after a injection? no"
3 weeks after an injection? fuck yes I feel a crash! at 2 weeks i start feeling a crash!
well they have yet to do that bro. ive been doing this goin on 13 years, and i have done well over 30 cycles, i think i have a good idea about what i am talking about.
YES YOU NEED PCT unless you want to lose all of your gains and hardwork. please post up you STATS, obviously this is your first cycle or you would know these things. as for the cycle, it does not seem like your ready since you have done hardly no research, and dont say you have because if you would have, you would know that PCT is a must. but if your going to run shit anyways and not listen to no one then test e at 500mg per week is a great place to start. you will need nolva and clomid for pct, both of them. and maybe an AI such as aromasin or arimidex. you will start pct 3 weeks after your last injection of test e. nolva-60mgs the 1st day, 40mgs per day for days 2-11, 20mgs per day for days 12-21. clomid-(i do this a little different than most, and it depends on what i am running)try this for clomid-200mgs the 1st day, 100mgs per day for days 2-11, 50mgs per day for days 12-21.
I strongly suggest you research more before you start anything, spend a little more time on here and you will learn. imo you dont need the dbol yet, you want to know how you react to each individual compound and you cant do that when you run them both, try dbol on your next cycle. make sure you have all of the proper ancillaries on hand before you start anything, you dont want to run into estrogen related sides and have nothing to help combat it.
sounds like first cycle post your stats age ect....20ish yrs old and no cycle. And no dbol, not neccesary trust me been there bro. AND pct 14 days after last test pin Clomid and nolve 100/100/50/50 40/40/20/20 usually.... start reading more
he needs to wait at least 3 weeks. due to half-lifes-(since Enanthate ester has a half-life of 10 days) at 14 days he still has roughly 200-250mg of test in his system(if his dose was at 500mg), at 21 days he will roughly have around 100-125 mg of artificial test still in his system, at 28 days he will have roughly 50-62.5mg of test in his system, and so forth.
I see the other guys told you about pct. The bottom line is that you have some powerful stuff in that test e and those dbols and youust respect what they "do" to your body chemistry. Yes they help with protein synthesis and with a solid diet and intense kick ass workouts you will see some great results but they will also shut you down. You need to detox and clear your receptor sites just as much as you need water, food, and sleep....the deal with AAS is you commit to do it then you must follow through especially when it comes to PCT.
stats
23 y.o
6'0
195
so basically cleaned up
test E 500 mg is good!? weeks 1-12
How about HCG? for weeks 1-12?(for the natural test)
wait 3 weeks after last injection
nolva 60mg day 1 then
40mg for 10 days then
20mg for 10 days
clomid 200mg day 1 then
100mg for 10 days
50mg for 10 days
sounds good to me.
Research and correct your pct. Timing and Mg levels. Go search first time cycle in forums. Lists hcg and how to. Then tell us why clomid n nolva and hcg so we know you understand. Looks like you're piecing....you should fully understand everything and why. These medications can help/harm you.
Wheres your ai? And why using ai?
nice
Thanks buddy! He's close but i can see he's grasping. Forums....he can learn how and why in just a few hours. You're correct on pct ;). Im going outta town so hope this works for him.
id like to here someone elses opinion on the 3 week before pct thing...2 is pretty popular around here, at 3 weeks ur gonna start feeling like shit... imo just sayin
ok think what you want. so i guess you wait 2 weeks after you finish a hypothetical prop only cycle too?!?! no you wouldnt. pct depends on the esters that you were taking. if you mean by popularity- that so many people run the same pct is that they are possibly running similar cycles. just because a shit ton of people run pct the same way does not mean its right. if you new how to calculate half-lifes then you would know this, and how to do a correct pct depending on half-lifes of esters. thats why you run pct depending on what compounds you just finished running, if you were on say 1.2 grams of test cyp per week with 800+ mg of deca per week, 600 mast pw, would you run the pct the same ways as say just a simple 6 weeks test prop 100mg eod cycle?!?! fuck no you wouldnt. you would run it totally different.
and no you wouldnt start to feel like shit, you would still have more test in your system than you naturally would be producing, as i have stated below learn half-lifes of esters/compounds and you will understand. what about the people who get trt? and only get shots every few weeks? are they going tot feel like shit 3 weeks after a injection? no
"what about the people who get trt? and only get shots every few weeks? are they going tot feel like shit 3 weeks after a injection? no"
3 weeks after an injection? fuck yes I feel a crash! at 2 weeks i start feeling a crash!
damn bro havin a bad day lol ... pretty sure any of the pros or gurus on here would agree with me ..
well they have yet to do that bro. ive been doing this goin on 13 years, and i have done well over 30 cycles, i think i have a good idea about what i am talking about.
its all good 3 weeks cant hurt... although the only other guy to comment on this post agrreed with me on the pct ;)
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Bad.......no dbol. Research more
YES YOU NEED PCT unless you want to lose all of your gains and hardwork. please post up you STATS, obviously this is your first cycle or you would know these things. as for the cycle, it does not seem like your ready since you have done hardly no research, and dont say you have because if you would have, you would know that PCT is a must. but if your going to run shit anyways and not listen to no one then test e at 500mg per week is a great place to start. you will need nolva and clomid for pct, both of them. and maybe an AI such as aromasin or arimidex. you will start pct 3 weeks after your last injection of test e. nolva-60mgs the 1st day, 40mgs per day for days 2-11, 20mgs per day for days 12-21. clomid-(i do this a little different than most, and it depends on what i am running)try this for clomid-200mgs the 1st day, 100mgs per day for days 2-11, 50mgs per day for days 12-21.
I strongly suggest you research more before you start anything, spend a little more time on here and you will learn. imo you dont need the dbol yet, you want to know how you react to each individual compound and you cant do that when you run them both, try dbol on your next cycle. make sure you have all of the proper ancillaries on hand before you start anything, you dont want to run into estrogen related sides and have nothing to help combat it.
He sorta tried to copy ya but still no research. Hope he listens! Force him to study
sounds like first cycle post your stats age ect....20ish yrs old and no cycle. And no dbol, not neccesary trust me been there bro. AND pct 14 days after last test pin Clomid and nolve 100/100/50/50 40/40/20/20 usually.... start reading more
he needs to wait at least 3 weeks. due to half-lifes-(since Enanthate ester has a half-life of 10 days) at 14 days he still has roughly 200-250mg of test in his system(if his dose was at 500mg), at 21 days he will roughly have around 100-125 mg of artificial test still in his system, at 28 days he will have roughly 50-62.5mg of test in his system, and so forth.
2 weeks is always protocol, although the roid calc tells a different story, is that where your getting these numbers?