Short cycle advice
So I think I'm only gonna do short cycles instead of long (10 weeks or more). I've done about 4 long Esther cycles and 1 short.
First 2 long cycles were under weight class restrictions along with my 1 short.
Other 2 longs no weight class.
I feel like short cycles are better for athletes, retain less water. Maintain or gain both strength and endurance.
I feel with long cycles i hit a wall occasionally but strength gains are always good but I want to look leaner because I always tend to carry some unwanted weight around my mid section, legs will get thicker shoulders to but mid section to.
I really liked the Test Prop Mast Prop winni stack but thinking of doing Test Prop Mast Prop and Dbol anastrozle(always works best for me) next time 8-9 weeks it's gonna be towards the second half maybe end of the year before I start so plenty of prep and planning time.
If there is a thread covering short cycles please share link or direct me to it.
What's your favorite short cycle?
How short can a cycle be?
Can you use sustanon in a short cycle?
Rules of short cycles?
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My goal right now is to bulk which has nothing to do with this cycle idea for the future which the goal then would be recomp/cut.
Just to clarify since some people want to be like meso members and instead of talking to learn some want to talk to talk shit
Once again like i said in the post let me know about your favorite short cycle. Did you enjoy your short cycle more than a long cycle? Which did you feel like you made better gains on short or long cycle? Benefits of short cycles? Discuss dickheads.
Stats: 5'11". 186. Op. Trying to bulk up. Long or short your issue is diet. 5'11" 186 lbs your about 25 lbs shy of even using gear as you have not hit your genetic body mass index with diet and training. Gear is not for you unless your willing to go full bulk in which case post your macros intake plan and how you plan to do it. At this point your throwing money in the toilet for oil and pills. I need to open a lab. Who would have thought a grocery store would lose money to labs
Haven't updated weight working on bulking now this is for a future cycle. I'm a bjj/MMA athlete not bodybuilder. Nice try being an asshole about it though. Do you train and teach martial arts? Do you have 2 kids a wife, 2 jobs? How much time do you have for a workout? Are you a weight class restricted athlete? Are you just dedicated to the training and have nothing else to do with your life? You started gear as a youngster ran 15 cycles and you're only 215lbs? Sounds like you need to eat more and run less gear.
Rustyhooker^^^^^reality check. +2
we've already been through this rusty on the same subject. Right now I'm bulking this cycle is for nearly the end of the year.
Reality check tzelukie ran 15 cycles and is only 215lbs sounds like he needs more food and less gear
Very valid point
The most anabolic compound on earth is real food. Not gear
Agreed. I'm a weight class restricted athlete so sometimes I have to lose a little or maintain.
Test prop
Proviron
Anavar..........best short cycle you will ever run.
Energy levels through the roof constant lean gains
(Providing diet is in check).
Preferably ED pinning but EOD will be ok
Standard pct will be fine
I have Test Prop and Anavar in the stash.
Proviron I may need to pick some up later. I love some good proviron the energy and sex drive always increases with good provi I call it the feel good pill. Just saw some injectable provi recently can't remember where but that was interesting to see.
I want to nail anything and everything on this cycle ;)
I bet with all that extra Test and free Test in the system hahaha!
I wouldn't run sustanon in short cycle--I would stick to test prop or phenylprop as your test base. Other than that, I think the same rules of a long cycle would apply to a short cycle. Mainly bloodwork and time on + PCT = time off.
I would say short cycles could vary from 2 - 8 weeks (2 weeks is from Bill Roberts protocol with the theory that your own test isn't shut down in that short of a time period). I've tried this but the hormone fluctuations were too much.
I think any short ester would suffice, but I've ran test prop and tren ace and liked it. Also, test phenlyprop and NPP would be good. I don't really run orals so no suggestions there.
Ultimately it depends on your goals, but you can have the leaner look on long esters. That's really diet and keeping estro in check to control bloat.
So your advice to an op who hasn't posted stats or cycle history is to run tren ace? Yes he is 30 or so but no stats posted. No cycle experiance posted. And don't give me the bulkshit I only said what I like. Learn how to advise on this site within our rules written or otherwise, or dont fucken advise on this site!
Can't use Tren Ace since I'm an endurance athlete.
I'm not just only looking for advice if you read the post tell me about your experiences have a fucking conversation tell me about your favorite short cycle and stuff. My stats are on my profile and intro if you would actually look to learn rather than look to respond.
cycle experience previously posted:
https://www.eroids.com/forum/general/introduction/everybody-wants-the-d
Stats are on his profile, he stated he trains mma so weight has to stay low.
Call it bullshit or whatever you want, I was just stating my experience.
You're fine he's just being an ass about it
I was hoping for some conversation.
By his own admission his issue is diet. Not oil. Food is the most anabolic compound on earth. Also the most expensive. But most importantly the only one you can use to hang onto weight
Right now food is the issue trying to bulk up yes I eat a lot and with bjj/MMA training I burn a lot this past week I've been nearing 190lbs it's taken a lot food which for me is harder than training.
With the short cycle I do later won't really be for bulking but will be for recomp
Not questioning your experience brother. Your positive experiance with an advanced compound can and will be perceived as good advice. In which turns into a sign off on a bad idea.
Not at all I was looking to start discussions about short cycles from your personal experiences. I can't do Tren because I'm an endurance type athlete. I see what you mean and I've been around longer than you think. I'm not someone looking for the ok on a bad idea. Just any short cycle advice and any experiences you want to share.
I noticed the forums have been a little slow and instead of people interacting it's like here google this or here go to the search bar at the corner of the page. Tell me about your favorite short cycle. I always see long cycle outlines but I never really see many short cycle outlines I've seen maybe 2.
That wasn't my intention but I see ur point.
Dude I come here to try and help and sometimes it's like pissing through a rolled up window. Plus 1
Sorry mods. Been back three days and already seriously annoyed
Calm down dude take an anti estro or proviron and quit being a bitch
Good share Ron!
Can't do Tren since I'm an endurance type athlete Test phenyl has been getting my attention as well as npp. Basically my goal with a short cycle would be like a body recomp trim down the fat and gain muscle. Build the legs and shoulders while keeping midsection lean. So I may switch the oral from Dbol to winni but I love those Dbol strength gains.
Use the search magnifying glass and type in your topic there's tons of info in the forums just about everything is covered somewhere in there
Noted.
You got any input from personal experience?
Trying to have a little discussion here.
No one talks much anymore these days just like here google it.