posted Mon, 06/27/2016 - 06:23
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Second Cycle Help Dosing Tren A/ Mast P/ Test P
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To start this off I'm 24, 6 foot 221lbs.
Had a couple cycles of PHs (superdrol epistane, etc.) used mainly for strength
Last year was my first test cycle of just Test E. 6 weeks. Noticed some strength gains, honestly think it was underdosed.
Trying for my second cycle to get some lean mass and lose fat.
Looked up many Tren Mast Test cutting cycles all with differing lengths and dosages.
I was thinking 8 weeks EOD 100mg Tren (400mg), 50mg Test (200mg), and 100mg Mast (400mg).
PCT w/ Clomid @ 100mgs ED for 2 weeks and then 50mgs ED for last week
Possibly include HCG.
Any Suggestions?
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AnonIf you want to stick around here you need not ask for advice on steroid usage, and I better not see any advice given or I'm gonna BAN all that are involved... Right now you should be looking at diet and training and you should just research first cycles for now , at your age you got some good Natural growth that can still happen if you put the work in... I know it to be a fact and I have seen it, in fact I am advising a friend who is 30 years old 5'8 and 205 12 % body fat and he is just now getting ready for his first cycle and he is gonna look awesome because he already has a great muscle build and with this first test e cycle he is gonna grow like a weed and suprise everyone with nothing but Test and when the cycle is done he is gonna keep the majority of his gains from that cycle because of the great base he has created
So, this is the road that YOU need to take as well, and do not forget what I said at the beginning of this post
Bro! Not a good idea at all!
Eat clean Train hard
Let your body grow naturally.
Build a solid base
Read more!
And above all respect the only body you got!
You won't turn 24 each year!
Whattttt...... 24?... 2nd cycle already..... And you wanna use TREN.....NOT HELP BRO. Come back in 3 - 4 year when you finish college and then we talk. Good luck!!!
Is 24 actually a young age to use AAS on this site? I know plenty of 19-22 year olds on right now and even use this site for sources.
Bro, using steroids to build a muscle base is a road leading nowhere. These guys will never see their potential and certainly will never make a mark on the sport of bodybuilding. The initial muscle foundation especially during the growth years of 18-24 give or take must be built through gut wrenching hard work. You can get real big and real strong when you are young without chemicals. Once that base is built, then anabolics will carry it to the next level and the one after that. There really isn't any short cut for long term freaky mass. Most of the ultra freaky guys have 10-15 years in the gym. It takes a long time to build a physique.
GnarkillI'm guessing another zyzz fan I'm 29 and these dam kids in the gym 17-21 asking everyone where to find gear cause they want to gear up to gain fast and go party to fuck chick's... the only thing they will get from no research is a limp ass dick and a stroke we need to just start replying to these questions with creatine it's all about protein and creatine young blood lol
Generally speaking your HPTA doesn't fully develop until you are 25 give or take, so interfering with its development can lead to some serious issues. It's why the rule exists. You can use the site as a resource and there isn't anything really we can do, but we don't give AAS advice to those that are under that age threshold since that is something we can directly influence.
After reading your first attempt at. a Cycle you cannot count that as a cycle. Test E for 6 wks and bunk to boot? Ya bro you shouldn't count that as a first cycle. You should rewrite your post as First Cycle help Test Tren Mast. Good luck with that one:)
I suggest you go back and do a lot more reading. The words 'second cycle' and 'Tren' should never be in the same sentence. Not trying to be a dick but it's obvious you are in over your head. Probably not what you wanna hear but it's about the only advice you're gonna get with your age and lack of knowledge.
Try not to take all the forthcoming comments personally, they might be a bit harsh. We are concerned about your health and safety above all else.
Thanks for the concern I'll be sure to read a lot more. I do know some guys who have suggested to use tren and there are those online who are adamant that tren is never necessary.
Is there any literature on this or is this all subject to opinion.
I don't take any comments negatively, I'm 24 and in no rush.
However, whats so bad about my clomid PCT? I already have HCG on hand and can get nolva if I need to.
I won't say Tren is never necessary, but in your case it's absolutely not necessary. It's an advanced compound, and it should be treated as such.
You need to master the basics before trying to get into anything else, let alone multiple compounds in one cycle.
General rule of thumb here is no cycle advice for guys under 25, that doesn't mean you can't be a productive member. Go check out the beginners cycle section, hit up the diet clinic to make sure your nutrition is on point. Research a basic test cycle and the standard pct that goes with it, I assure you all this is readily available here.
This is not possible. It's a myth.
There's no AAS advice to those under 25 here.
Forum rules. But before you do something stupid and hurt yourself, do not run tren for your second cycle. You need to learn all about a beginners/first cycle. This proposed cycle is a mess, your PCT is a mess as well and you're asking not to recover.