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No thrashers please. Just a legit question

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Thanks for the help guys

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Ty guys I'm on a pretty good diet right now. I don't count carbs or anything like that and I want to learn. My above post is a cut and paste cycle.Pin is right thought more was better. I'm excited I have some unexpected money and want to order now so I don't spend it. Not gonna use it till bodyfat drops. I have only used Three compounds together at the same time ,different compounds for each cycle but a max of 3. I wanna trim down and look 270 at like 240. Right now been dieting for only a week as I said I'm back from an injury and I let myself go. I eat about 6 meals a day. With a few shakes in the mix. Tons of water. I eat my carbs early and taper as the day goes. I'm still in the I'm full stage all the time. I have done this diet with great success many times. It takes me a couple weeks to adjust then I'm hungry all the time. I upped my cardio and I'm just keeping good form at the gym right now nothing to heavy. I just wanna get the order in my house for motavation. That's my story like I said I don't want to ruffle feathers here. As for my body fat your probaly right low to mid 20s. It has been a little bit since I had it checked. The dude at the gym has that hand machine last check was months ago while on a cycle. It was 18%.

Thunder1's picture

Picture posted guys. Be gentle!

birdbear27's picture

Been creepin on this thread from the start. Your bodyfat is more like mid 20's. That's a rough guess, really need to see your back. But its no less than 20%. The guys in here have it right. Diet down to 15% ish then start a simple cycle, test + proviron (good call pin). Guarantee great results with your diet in check on a cycle like that bro.

Roid Noid's picture

That body fat is well over 25%, my best guess is 27- 29% with the highest amounts around waist/stomach.

birdbear27's picture

Yeah I was being generous. Like I said if I saw his back it'd be a no brainer but my guess was mid 20's.

Dickkhead's picture

Bro, just bring your BF down before u start with more chemicals. Trust me, you will be happier with the end result. And, no, no 12 weeks of Tren, no 6 weeks of dbol coupled with 8 weeks of winny depot, no, no and NO. We're not bulking up for the Olympia here.

PIN_CUSHION's picture

We talked a little last night. He's dropped most of the compounds. Leaning towards Test, Provi, and maybe EQ

Dickkhead's picture

Well, that's reasonable. I answered on his other post as well. I'm just very disappointed that a member here who states he's done 8 or 9 cycles would just throw a bunch of anabolics against the wall and see what sticks. I have higher expectations than that.

PIN_CUSHION's picture

Yea makes you wonder about the previous ones. He was trying to make things way to complicated. I think since he is 270 he thought he needs all that gear. He's definitely all ears so there's still hope.

PIN_CUSHION's picture

Looking thick! Just like we said, up the cardio bring that BF down, and you will be ready to rock! What type of physique are you after? Your diet and training will need to match your goals.

Dickkhead's picture

Bro, this is NOT a legit question. Not with all the cycle-logs to review, not with the information on bulking cycles that can be had just by searching the site archives. Others may, but I just don't do concierge cycle design for a member that I would label as "a wee bit lazy" under the subterfuge of you "just asking a question."

I mean, look at this guy, for example, simple cycle and he has reported in that he's is making great gains on this. (www.eroids.com/cycle_logs/dirty-bulker-looking-to-gain-at-least-20lbs./) You could have reviewed that cycle and so many others instead of just posting up an array of chemicals and asking the community to fix it for ya.

Roid Noid's picture

just post a pic

VIKING EVOLUTION's picture

BOOOOOOM.............. Simple as that then we make some educated decisions instead of jerking each other in this thread for days guessing how that 270lbs is assembled............

Thunder1's picture

Agreed pic to come.

killacambam24's picture

How can you honestly post that as a cycle and expect no thrashers... you gotta give us more than that. 270 with a belly isnt alot of help. Ne who like others have said eq and test... maybe kick start with dbol. Drop everything else exept pct. What's your diet plans??What type of mass are u looking to build??

Barabbas's picture

Bro this kinda seems all over the place.like I said get the bf down first.
1-6 test e?
Why not run the test e 12wks.your gonna need an AI. Do you have one or plan on getting one?

That 19nor without a prolactin blocker? Plan for some milky nips.

Like I said in your other post bro, no dis respect but this just seems kinda poorly planned.

Lets start simple. You ran EQ and Test ladt cycle and got good results? Then lets start with that.

Go with a nice 14-16wk test e/cyp and EQ.

1-16 Test E 500mg a wk
1-16 EQ 600-700mg a wk I like to run my test just a bit lower than my EQ
1-4 Test Prop 100mg EOD
[email protected] EOD or E3D gonna have to see what works best for you or
Aro @6.5 EOD

I like Adex cause it keeps me dry

Pct as follows
Clomid 100/100/50/50
Nolva 40/40/20/20
You can throw Aro in with PCT I hear it works wonders.
ive learned more is not better bro. Hope this helped.

irongame427's picture

Running the eq and cyp both for 16 weeks instead of dropping the eq a few weeks before? Now thats how you fuck someone up.

killacambam24's picture

Hahaha amen brother

Barabbas's picture

Yeah I seen that. It was a typo bro. Look down a little. I went into that.

Thunder1's picture

Ty bro I like this. I am ordering on Thur so I will get all PCT along with order. What do you think about HCG? I take it the prop is the kicker. And the PCT is the last four weeks? But run some adex @ .5 mg eod to keep gyno away. Or should I run the aro? if so is it from day 1?

irongame427's picture

Adex doenst work during pct like aromasin does. Either you drop the adex before pct and not use an ai during pct, or you use aromsin. Adex is not a pct drug.

Barabbas's picture

Yes Prop will be your kicker until the Test E kicks in. Eq for me usally kicks in around wk 10 so I like to run it atleast 16wks. Correct me if im wrong guys but EQ would be 3wks till PCT.

You can run the test 17wks and stop the eq at 16 that way you will be ready for PCT 2wks after your last Test injection.

Aro and Adex is a personal preference. I start my AI 2-3wks in. I run Adex@ .5 e3d but everyone is different you might need it EOD. Get bloods drawn before cycle and 8wks in then again right before PCT. Then of course after PCT to see if you have returned to normal.

HCG is good to keep the boys from shrinking, I havent gotten bad atrophy so havent reall used HCG.Im sure one of the other guys can chime in on that one.

PIN_CUSHION's picture

You're making things way to complicated. What compounds do you have exp with? Also, you are already huge what's your BF? Are you sure size is what you want? Sounds like a cut might be what you need.

Thunder1's picture

Pin Last cycle was Test E ,Eq and winny. I have used Sust, d-ball, and deca, I don't like deca. My order is going in on Thur. just trying to pick your brain on a good cycle. Gonna get the whole cycle and PCT together so I'm ready to rock

PIN_CUSHION's picture

So rough guess on your BF, cause at 6'1 270 you're either already in beast mode or a little out of shape.

Thunder1's picture

I'd say an honest 18% I'm solid as a fuck. Just have a little gut. Was down at two fifty then tore my shoulder so the lack of activity caused me to gain some weight I range from 13-16 most of the time. I diet very clean when on cycle no booze no junk.

PIN_CUSHION's picture

I think you'd be better suited to try and cut down to the 250-260 range. Up your cardio. Stay simple with your cycle. Test, and Proviron. Read up on Proviron a great addition to any cycle. Unbinds free test keeps water down and hardens muscles.

irongame427's picture

I like this Idea. Get that bodyfat down naturally first then cycle. Shouldn't take very long either. You'll be less likely to encounter estrogen side effects. You'll respond better to the hormones, and you'll Actualy be able to see yourself grow instead of the muscle being covered in a layer of fat.

PIN_CUSHION's picture

Edit wrong pic. Still same advice, lol

irongame427's picture

loi i was wondering, couldn't find a picture.

Thunder1's picture

Pin ty. What about Eq in the mix it works well for me and takes the pip away from the test

PIN_CUSHION's picture

If it works and you like then sure. I've never ran it so I can't really advise much on it other then what I know about the compound. You been taking plenty of time off between cycles and recovering? I see you like the longer cycles.

PIN_CUSHION's picture

If you can shed that BF first then a cycle would serve you very well. The higher BF will just increase sides. Yea you'll get results but you'll waste the gear or shedding BF that you could do easily without it.

Thunder1's picture

I do like to cycle long as I only do two a year. I'm super confused. I liked the Test E and EQ but want to throw in another compound was thinking sust or mast but not sure of a good dose

irongame427's picture

14 weeks straight on a 17a methyl steroid.....really bro?

Thunder1's picture

Thats why I'm asking. I am trying to put a solid cycle together but just get comments like yours. I am asking for help bro