New to sight, 2nd cycle advice! Lean machineeeee!
I am a graduated college athlete and long time lurker. I am in fantastic shape 200lbs, <5 minute mile, 9-10% bf, 39 inch vertical. 450 squat x5 225 bench x12 ect...
Pre bloods look great, plan to do midway and post blood also.
Cycles under my belt: two test e 500/w with proper pct
This cycle I plan to use compounds provided by my brother who is a competitive builder and I would really like your 2 cents.
Week 1-4: test e 250, primo p 300, npp 300, test p 300, 50 mg var ed 50 mg
Week 5-9 test e 500 npp 500
Week 10-13 test e 500
Week 14 taper with test p down to 0 and hcg blast
Week 1-14 aromosin 12.5 eod, Proviron 50 ed, hcg 500 a week split
Weeks 15-20 pct: clomid, nolva, asin, GW
My goal is to gain some dryish gains and lots of strength. What can I expect from mast and npp? Also I have a lot of primo on hand would that come in use. I and looking to feel great on cycle so any insight into “feel good” aas other than dbol would be fantastic. Any tweaks you guys would make?
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brick topyou are a competetive boxer and want to use npp or any nandrolone substance, you do realize nadro is detectable for a long effing time? besides, to much gear, i would just use 500mg test and maybe, MAYBE add some eq for leanish gains but for you, im not sure if it is needed, im on 600mg test and 400mg deca now and i am 43 years old with lots of experience, i went from 92 to 98 kilos in tree weeks but granted, there is water retention.
I like how you're loading the Test P until The Enan kicks in but when tapering I would run the Prop at least 2 weeks because of the half life of the Enan. I also would run the Primo at least 12-14 weeks to get it's full benefit and drop the Var. Also, don't really believe the HCG is necessary. This is an advanced cycle that a competitive BB would use so after only doing two Other cycles it may be overkill for you unless you plan on doing a show. Just starting out LESS IS MORE, Just try to keep it simple but it's your choice.
basskiller89Damn brother, 200lbs 9% is what I am lol
Why even run gear when you have god like genetics
RustyhookerBecause only pix prove his statements. His ideals are bs
basskiller89I concur lol
Why run primo for 4 weeks. This cycle is rediculous . Just add a little more test and proviron and run that.
Yep perfect that cycle before adding other compounds. I've ran 5 test and provi cycles before adding another compound.
I agree and gym rats like me can just gradually bump that test up. Personally I can’t see a guy like me running tren. I don’t compete. The risk vs reward just to look better on vacation doesn’t warrant it imo.
X2 that would be much better for a second cycle
Boom.
More than enough to get the job done, for 6’3” 200lbs is undersized.
The short ester like I said below, that apparently is literally a huge pain in the ass.
Exactly, that’s what I suggested too brotha. That gave me a headache and anxiety just thinking about trying to run that cycle. Hell, I even hate using npp to kick start deca and bold cyp to kickstart eq, especially if you were to run them at the same time lol.
I really am 26 unfortunately lol. I am an amateur boxer and looking for lean gains beyond what 10 years of training has gotten me. I believe my frame may be able to squeeze out 5 pounds at 9% but I do agree with the complication. The reason for the multiple compounds is I was provided some mixes for free. Should I simplify to test and npp? I am not big on orals, and am pretty weary of even using var
RustyhookerSo youre really 22.....
Are you a compeative body builder?? It has way to many compounds for 2 cycle. Why add so maney for round 2? How bout test 500 e ew for 12 weeks and dbol 40 mg ed for 4 weeks. Anti estros of course with pct?? If your 6' and wheigh 200 lbs im thinking you got alot more lean wheight u can put on with a good diet.
Or swap the dbol for var if he’s wanting lean gains as he stated- that’s be better suited don’t ya think?
And holy hell I’ve heard Primo p has ungodly pip like bold ace.
To OP- bro, if you’re weary of using var, then you definitely don’t have any business running Primo P. Honestly, no one really does unless advanced and loves major pip.
This plan is WAY too complicated brother- even at an advanced user perspective (not claiming I am, saying in general). It’s all over the place and with compounds you should not be using at all at this point- I understand the wanting of running something you’ve been given because you have it and it was free; but please for your health and well being, don’t do it and save it for down the road or get rid of it.
Test E 500mg a week for 12-14 weeks and 50mg Proviron a day starting on week 2. Aromasin on hand to start after taking bloods to see where your E2 is at.
You can make PLENTY of lean gains off that- because those will be determined in your diet/kitchen and your training.