posted Wed, 10/18/2017 - 11:00
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-1 New Cycle starting in a week Cyp/NPP/EQ/TBOL
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So i plan on starting this 20 week cycle and using these dosages
PHARM Prescribed Cyp 750mg/week
NPP 375mg/Week
EQ 800mg/week
TBOL 60-70mg/week
I take in around 4500-5000 calories a day but clean, 300grams of protein, 500grams of carbs,150grams of fat,125-130grams of sugar. Pretty clean, and my workouts are based off of the Y3T regimen which yield great results for me.
What do all of ya guys think
Im here for opinions and wont be offended
this is probably my 15th cycle
31yrs/195lbs/5'8
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Atitan89I love the compounds, those including var are my go to compounds for safest, anabolic, lowest sides, quality compounds.
Personally im looking at the same cycke mints rge eq at the moment, im set and planning on
Test wks 1-17
NPP wks 1-6/8
Eq wks 1-16
Tbol wks 11-19
Weeks dont have to be exact to the tee but you get the idea of when id put things in and take them out.
So basically test foundation relatively low 300-400 .
Then fast acting npp 350 compound to start putting on some clean full tissue with a great pump during the beginning of the cycle. Npp with kick start while the EQ starts to build up, EQ at 600. Right when you come off the NPP the EQ should be starting to kick in full throttle, building on top of those npp gains, filling them out, fuller look, depending on the diet a tighter more vascular look. Then at the end using the tbol or var, to just dial all the gains made at each point of the cycle. Smooth out the gains/look, more vascularity, denser look, less water depending on diet, and just the icing on the cake. I believe running the oral at the end and 2 weeks after your last injection will allow one to make those gains made on cycle with npp then eq more permanent gains. Plus once you drop all the oils waiting for them to clear while taking tbol will give you a much more dry vascular look.
Personally looking to run 12,5 aromasin 3x a week.
Pct Clomid/nolva/arom. Maybe some hcg 4 weeks prior to starting pct.
I wasnt going to add eq this cycle but the more i talk about it, i like how every step of the way theres another compound kicking in and shocking the muscles/body.
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I'm calling Bull Shit on this mess.
No doctor would prescribe 400mg per week and your claim to be able to get prescribed 750mg per week is pure bullshit.
Prescribed actually lower but I'm
Running the test all I'm saying is that it's prescribed test not UGL
Your prescribed lower,....... so the extra Test Cyp for the cycle just magically appears.
I just up the dose cause I wanted a little bit more of a dose
RustyhookerI cruise on 400mg a week of cyp
And thats a full cycle year round and your stats do not show its effective.
backonroidsIt's crazy how people think 400mg is a cruise .. Shocking !!
It's self prescribed so obviously his doctorate dictates it... Lol.
The one certainty in life is that there are is endless supply of idiots.
When I'm on cycle I speak with my doc and I'm actually prescribed what I say so he monitors my levels I get taken every month
RustyhookerGymrat was your last acct?
Post up pix before i answer..... ive run similar. Answer below as well
No I was just saying I'm a gym rat. Heavily active in gym
RustyhookerPix?
15 cycles, the average person will do about 1 a year considering time on equals time off +pct so you have been cycling since you were 24 at 2 per year. 2 cycles per year at roughly 12 weeks per cycle means you take a 28 week break before the next cycle the right way. Since there are 52 weeks in a year it would be safe to say you have been blasting for the last 6 years because it would be very difficult to fit in that many UNLESS you started when you were 18 or younger.
Ok so no one said all my cycle were as long as this some were 8 week some were 12 weeks. No reason to go all e=mc2 on me bro I'm asking advice and opinions on this specific cycle. Thanks for the concern though
Im not concerned, you say your on trt, 400 a week. You then add you are going to pct as well. That certainly does not sound like what a normal trt patient does. And 400 a week? Like I said you are on a permanent cycle. Im out, good luck when or if you hit 40 years old.
Ok negative nancy. And at end of cycle I'm going to go a lot lower possibly down to 200mg a week but still do clomid and HCG to bring the levels back up faster because the sudden drop in artificial test
Lol what the fuck?
How would it bring levels up faster? What’s there to go up? If you drop down to 200, there’s nothing to go up... your levels would just slowly drop down to 200/week worth over the course of a couple weeks. There’s no “up” in this situation. You sir, are a fuckin moron.
Ok there's no need for name calling and everything else. We're all adults I don't see why you have to stoop so low you could just give friendly advice that's why this forum was created
You’re correct, but someonetimes you have to be a cunt to get someone’s attention. Your logic is silly and there’s actually no logic to it at all. it sounds like you need to do a lot of research, pal. We’re not just playing with supplements here, and from the sounds of it, you’re going to end up doing some damage to your body if you don’t make some changes. You can get the results your getting now with lower/safer doses and proper time off at a real maintenance dose (if B&C is the commitment you have already made and it’s too late to turn back).
There’s a great forum on here about HCG and when to use it. I suggest you read that to start. And take a peek into the 40+/TRT group and do some reading in there.
Maybe there’s hope for you yet if you’re actually willing to listen. Many of us are a bit jaded from people coming in with this nonchalant outlook on AAS and an attitude that they know everything and aren’t willing to listen. You started off sounding like one of those guys.
I heard ya, whats B & C mean? any advice for a cycle for me with the info i have given, maybe a suggestion?
BnC = blast and cruise. I dont' feel comfortable giving actual full blown dose & cycle advice. I'll only make suggestions to change or alter a well planned existing layout. And even if I did we'd need more info.
List your full complete stats and prior cycle experience, goals/training/diet, and after you do some reading/research make a well planned lay out for what you're thinking on running and we can all help tinker with it.
Nailed it.
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Once again your logic is flawed, TRT paitents do take hcg, but not clomid, and if they do its while off ALL synthetic test. Doing 200mg or a million wont change the fact you are shutdown and any effects of the drug will be wasted when your brain sees you are still on cycle and shuts your hpta down again. Why ride a roller coaster? Its a waste. I think you need to do a hell of a lot more research on what you are putting into and doing to your body. No offense intended. Its like taking a sleeping pill then drinking 10 cups of coffee to stay awake.
I will rethink my cycle and take your words for advice. Thanks for not getting all negative and start the name calling like others have. So can you help me out with straightening my cycle out. I'm a really hard gainer. I started working out at 16 years old I was 93lbs. I was natural till around 3 years steady st 150-155lbs. I was off when I said I have been cycling that long I would actually figure it would be around almost 10 years now on and off. I'm looking to clean bulk I know it's hard but I can eat really healthy and a lot of calories doing it. Any help would be appreciated
You have been on 400 a week for a very long time, my only advice is to drop it down to 125 a week for 4 weeks then get a blood test and see where your levels are. 600-1100 is a decent area to be on at your age 1100 is the max. You might need to stay on that for at least a few months to release the receptors. THEN start another cycle and it just might be a great one.
If you say you hard gain, then you need to change things. Either your routine or diet is holding you back.
Change your thinking more then anything else and stop convincing yourself you can't. In the gym there is no such thing as can't, only can do.
So normally my levels are 282 that's why I was prescribed the test
Right, so do like I said because you are hard gaining right now due to over saturation. Clear your receptors and give them a couple months break.
RustyhookerWow!! I missed that.....
I did too, then I just shook my head and thought steroid junkie lol I pictured OP sweating and shaking waiting by his mailbox for his fix with syringe in hand.
No reason to be a jerk. This is a forum where we all have one thing in common and that is our interest in bodybuilding. No need for the immature insults
Well,.......... no, you're wrong.
This is a steroid review site, we all have one thing in common, ............. an interest in steroids.
We have a body building group, a power lifter group, a TRT group, and athletic group etc.
EROIDS is NOT a body building group.
You know what I meant lol
RustyhookerTough crap. You're effing up your health with very lil proof its working. Someone gotta watch out for you.
Another -2
RustyhookerCrazy times. Another dude yesterday wanted a cycle to be 170 pound boney model. Smh...
How long are you planning on running the tbol? What's your cycle history prior to this cycle buddy and how have you planned your PCT?
Probably gonna run the tbol for 8-10 weeks. I usually stick would stick to a test and either a eq or a tren or a primo. Never did one with this many compounds. Well I am legit prescribed testosterone cypionate my levels are normally low so I cruise on 400mg a week of cyp. But afte my pct will include Clomid/HCG and I will have nolva on hand I usually take 10mg of nolva everyshot and it helps counter the estrogen effects
Amazing how quickly you trip over your own balls here bud. No doctor will prescribe 400mg per week as a TRT option. And even if you were on TRT, why would you be doing a PCT then?
Here's some karma for being full of shit.
Why are u guys negative instead of giving advice and asking questions without the hate?
Your cruise is 400 mgs test cyp???
What does that put your levels at? 2k?
Wayyyyy too high of a cruise. Try 100 mgs. IMO
But you also mention pct. So which is it? Trt or pct?
My levels were at greater then 1500
backonroids6 weeks would be adequate . I preffer it as a finisher personally .
Thanks for the advice brother
I haven't ever added an oral at the end normally as a kick start because I don't like the eod pinning of prop that alot of guys do. I'm off now and will probably stay off until march time but planning sust eq and tboli might give it a go and throw it in at the end. Whats the reason for adding it in at the end mate?
I ran test eq tbol last winter, great bulking cycle. The eq made me super hungry. Really easy to pack in the cals, tbol at 60mgs ed for the first 6 weeks was effective, nice lean gains, no water. That plus eq are great together imo. Nice dry gains. First time using tbol, if I run eq again I'll probably use tbol. I'll stick to dbol and anadrol for cycles with deca and shit. A benefit of adding a compound midway or toward the end that lowers shbg and increases free test is for many gains really slow down aftef 8 weeks or so, nor for everyone but for many. Myostain levels increase, along with other measures the body takes to counter the anabolism going on and try to return to homeostasis. The big surge in free test is enough to overcome this issue. Without having to up the doses which in my experience wasn't all that effective. Plus the addition of the new compound will also throw the body a bone and kick start things again. Although I don't get the gains using it at the end as I do as a kicker with fresh receptors.
backonroidsIt is better at the end of cycle because it will free sgbh making the other gear your on more effective in one sense . If you are running a long ester I would use it at the end and use it straight up to pct whilst your other gear has stopped / waiting for ester to clear before PCT starts.
I like tbol but find the gains slow and steady so not great as a kicker in my opinion , the gains are good quality but slow and steady . By the week 3 when your test has started to peak tbol is outshined abit imo . But towards the end of a cycle you can make some great gains with it ! I like to run for 6 weeks around 40-50mg ( it's not a toxic as other orals - but still is )
Not the best scientific response haha but I'm not going to google to make myself look clever thats my reasoning - but defo do a search on the compound and the profile mate and see what you think.
Others may disagree but to me Tbol is a finisher mate
Remove brand names Bubba.
You got jt
Watson is not a site named it's a legit company if you look it up you can find it. Was just saying it's legit pharmecutical testosterone not made in a basement
Like Jarjarbinks said, rules is rules. I don't care whether it was manufactured in a state of the art facility or whether it was brewed in a used toilet, no brand names at all. Refer to it as pharma or UGL. You've still not edited your post to remove it.