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hi guys starting a new cycle and wondering what you think of it any advice would be great.
Weeks 1-4 50mg dbols ed
weeks 1-10 tritren150 2ml per week
weeks 1-12 t400 2 ml per week
weeks 1 -12 eq250 2ml per week
i have some ai on hand and pct sorted this is my 3rd cycle just want to know if theres anyway i would benefit anymore or less on this cycle??
cheers guys

Catalyst's picture

Way too much gear for your 3rd cycle. EQ not long enough and bf% too high.

vulch's picture

what would be another alternative to eq for solid size i eat very healthy and train x 4 a week ive noticed friends who use decc sometimes seem fat and blotchy whereas other guys use eq and get solid gains, any other alternatives for eq??

Catalyst's picture

What's the goal for this cycle?

vulch's picture

goal is to gain a bit of solid size mate

Catalyst's picture

If it's a pure bulk, I'd suggest just test e with the dbol to kick. If it's a leaner bulk, a test e EQ run isn't a bad call. Let me know what you think and we can put some doses together.

vulch's picture

yeah am defo going down this road dbol kicker with the tes e and eq doses wise i was thinking about 750 tes e p/w and 600eq p/w for 16 weeks?? would you reccomend using hcg? all replies are much appreciated1

Catalyst's picture

I wouldn't use EQ and dbol in the same cycle, they kind if contradict each other. Dbol adds water, EQ dry/lean etc. personally I'd pick one or the other, if you want a kicker for the EQ run maybe tbol or test prop would be a more synergistic idea.

vulch's picture

av done a indject250 2ml a week on its on my 1st oil cycle then cycle 2 introduced eq and tren e no much sides wise, what doses do you think would be appropriate? thanks

GRIMEY's picture

Just a tip, when you want to reply to someone's comment, click the little "reply" button in the box of that comment. It will keep your thread better organized.

As for doses I can't really put a number on it. I'm not you nor do I know your goals or how you respond to certain compounds.

I'd say use the smallest doses possible that will allow you to reach your goals for your cycle.

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vulch's picture

cool mate thats a fair point a think a will give it a go and see how i feel in a week or 2 thanks man

TheFlash85's picture

mate, I just looked at your proposed cycle layout, and its no good bro, its only your third cycle, so do something like this,

test @ 750 for 12-14 weeks and dbol @ 40mgs- 50mgs a day for 4-6 weeks, im telling you bro you will grow big, get strong, and feel good, definatley store the tren away, and as for the eq, it needs to run for 16 weeks, @ around 600 minimum for results, so save that for later too. good luck

vulch's picture

Cheers for the feedback mate i should have said it was my 6th cycle the 1st 3 were orals only this is my 3 with injections i thought as long as i ran the eq for 10 weeks would be ok ive ran it for 12 before @600 and with tes and was great got good results nice n tight, i could run the eq for 16 weeks @600 with the tes @ 800 and im now a bit dubios to taking the tri tren may shelf it for next time, cheers mate

TheFlash85's picture

ok, well you could run just test and eq then. just don't run the tren.

vhman's picture

That sounds like a better idea. I would just stick with the test for 12 weeks, but if you are going to add the EQ, 16 weeks or so is where you will find it to be effective. You may want to adjust the MG a little though. Good choice on dumping the tren.

vulch's picture

cheers vhman am going to drop the tren this time defo, if i was to run the tes n eq for 16 weeks what dose would be good for me goals simple bit more size and strength?

vhman's picture

Revenge (above) listed a pretty good dose suggestion for test/EQ, so you could start there. I'm a big believer in "less is more" so take that as you will. You may want to use the search button and see what others have done to pick and choose from and make a more informed decision.
Test will give you size and strength and the EQ will help with that, as well as giving you more endurance, due to the increase in red blood cells. You will need to take precautions with more RBC, like 81 mg aspirin a day and drinking lots of water, because your blood will be super thick without it.
It's really your diet which will make or break your "goals", so make sure you get that sorted out to meet your specific goals (size, cutting, etc.).

vulch's picture

appreciated yeah a drink plenty water and my diet is on top the now am going to do a little more reading with taking what you guys have said i am going to rethink my cycle cheers mate much appreciated!!

vhman's picture

Perfect. Best of luck!

vulch's picture

yeah sorry guys could of been more specific, 33 5'10 13 st bf 17 my 3rd cycle with oils done 3 just using orals my last 1 was sus tren e and eq same routine but lower doses 500cc sus pw 500 eq and 400tren e. i have arimidez as last time a was starting to get tender nips and for my pct i have novadex and clomind caps

GRIMEY's picture

You're using some big doses very early in your cycling, might want to rethink that

Hit up the search function and research caber and pramipexole, you're gonna want one or the other.

Have you ever run a simple test only cycle, or test with a dbol kicker?

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MONK's picture

Best way to to reach out for some knowledge/advice is to first of include your stats. Your version of 'pct sorted' May be way off point so take the time and write your cycle log out in full including Ai and Pct. You'll be surprised at how willing to help members will be if you follow that protocol.

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GRIMEY's picture

4 compounds is a lot for a 3rd cycle, what did your previous cycles look like?

Generally you do not want to introduce more than 1 new compound at a time, this way you know how you react and which sides are coming from what compounds.

Also no mention of prolactin control.

IMO 1.6g of gear/wk on a third cycle is overkill brother.

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