posted Tue, 07/03/2012 - 07:47
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I am new to the site, but I have been checking it out for research for couple of months now.I need your sound advice on my second cycle.My goal is to bulk up to 180-185 lbs.First cycle, I took deca for 10 weeks with pct for 4 weeks.I would like to do this right, so your input is very important to me.Thanks guys in advance.
Stats: Age 28
Ht. 5-7
Wt. 165 lbs.
Bf. 15%
Diet(daily in take):
4000-5000 calories
350 protein
4:1 ration on carbs
Cycle:Wk. 1-3= Test Prop 150 eod.
Wk. 1-10= Test E 600 split
Wk. 11-14=Test prop 150 eod.
Wk. 15-18= 40/40/20/20 Nolva
100/100/50/50 Clomid
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tread-mI agree with the boys in Gear Nation below me here in the work. I would like to see an aromasin protocol as you roll and would also like to see letro on hand.
Thanks Bruh. Is it ok if I friend request you? I would like to know more on incorporating letro and aromasin.
tread-mSure you can brother, we won't use the letro unless needed but aromasin we will. Letro on hand given we'd rather have it and not need it than need it and not have it...kinda like sweet southern Assss and condoms/roofies!
Slaaaam job done guys no need for me here lol i can go eat some more +3 to both you guys good info the bf% is important before cycle starts.
Hey Bruh, I sent you a friend request.I've read that you are the king of diet programs. For someone like me that have a fast metabolism, what would you suggest in gaining clean weight for the next two months before I start my cycle? (if its better to just pm me that'll be awesome as well).
Thanks Viking!
zewisecond that
You impressed me doing the BF% deduction from the stated bodyweight.. thats the way i create a mental picture of every poster before i write a single word.
I'm a short guy too so even a lil bit above 12% and i go back to looking like midget footballer. Just dropping a lil bf will make cycle more positive each time he's in mirror. Bonus of being short....a lil goes a long way. Lol
zewilmao.. true
Four Weeks of cardio blast/reps blast then its my turn to turn it up. Lol!
zewi“Please don’t do deca alone again” I second that.
Ok I hope you don’t get mad in what I’m about to say. But if you do well green jacket blue jacket who gives a shit. Lol
I think you need to work on your diet first get the BF down just a little, you a shorter guy. For me and if I were in the same boat, I would get a good diet down for the next 60 days. Work my ass of in the Gym, have my body at top shape with a clean diet. And then start the cycle. And it would look something like this.
Since you want to use Prop as a kicker which I have no problem with.
Week
Arimidex .25mg e3d to keep bloating and estrogen in check, if nipples become sensitive, go to .5mg e3d and if still a problem go to .5mg ED.
1-4 Test Prop 100 EOD
1-12 Test E 500mg Split (Monday/Thursday)
13-14(15) Test Prop 100 EOD
Start PCT 3 days after last TEST P Shot.
Nolva 40/40/20/20
Clomid 100/100/50/50
If you have HCG I would do 200iu two times a week. During Cycle.
Thanks brother. I appreciate the help.
zewianytime.. Good luck...
good stuff
Bingo!
Please dont do deca alone again.
Honest review.......your diet or training must be off. If you subtract the bf%% you're well below 150. Please modify workout and food intake before cycle. Get naturally up to 175 fairly lean then blastoff.
Please post workout routine. Protein gms/day
I got you. I am not making any excuses, but it is my mistake listening to my bwoy regarding deca.
I go to the gym 4 days a week, and no cardio due to high metabolism.I used one of those wireless handheld devise, and my bf% goes between 12-15%. I was doing a little research, and I learned that the aforementioned devise is not accurate. I have to redo it with the caliper.
Her's my workout routine for the last 6 weeks:
monday = chest, tris and abs
tuesday= back, bis, and calves
wednesday=off
thursday= shoulders, traps and abs
friday= chest, tris and bis(twice a week for little bit more concentration)
saturday= legs and calves
sunday=off
protein daily intake= 389.08 mg.
We've all made mistakes....so we just try and help so others learning curves have better chance. Since your metabolism is higher....please ride bike or treadmill after lifting to get bf down. Then you wont battle estro vs growing vs cuttin all in same cycle. If your leaner there's only one goal. Buffed out lean. Suggestion....your workout looks goot post cycle so just add cardio. On cycle look at this idea.....8-10 sets and between 8-10reps per lify for all angles. Ex....chest--decline...incline,,,flat....cables.. Abs/ calves every non leg day.
Chest/back.....day one
Quads/hams....day two
Shoulders/bis//tris
Off
Repeat
Heavy using that style on cycle will shock your growth. Keep mixing styles every 6Weeks offcycle.
Thats a lot of help bro, thanks. I got my BF% its 11%. . .I wanted to ask you.How long of a cardio should I do after a hour to hour and half workout? I was told to do 20-30 minutes, is that right? also, I incorporate drop sets or failure in all my last sets of exercise. which one is more effective in more muscle gains?
I wouldn't do over 20 mins an id def do hiit styl training. stay away from treadmill due to being hard on joints and all around inneffective cardio. Try the stair gaunlet or elyptical(with resistance) 3 min warm up, 30 seconds all u got 1.5 mins moderate pace..... then 30 secs all out . repeat except for the 3 min warmup until 2o mins are reached. tr to steadily progress intensity and resistance.Do AFTER weight training.. not before.