Hi Randytheram I am new here but not new to gear but have been misleaded buy someone that I had a ton of respect for I am not taking any chances buy say his name I don't know if its allowed you all must know him I trained under him for a year than went on to build my own gym buying his stuff he does build some of the greatest stuff anyway down to the problem till this point I was maybe doing a cycle once a year tops once in awhile two in one year that's all I needed I stayed at 242 to 248 5'10" a little bit of fat than I stopped for about 6 to 8 years here the problem by listening to ......... I got back on test cyp. and he told me you don't get off I been on for 33 years all I do is at 500mg a week to a meet is coming up than I go to 1000mg a week for a few weeks than back down to 500mg and if winny come around I will do 50mg for every 50lb of body weight so at this time we were tight and he was not world famous at the time and we used to talked on the phone about once a week know that he is rock star famous world wide he wont even email me back I just happen to be reading one of his articles and it was about gear and how it should be legal and what him a his guys take and was not the same advice he gave me I have know doubt he never comes off so know I am on for life I get labs done every 6 months that's what they will pay for and when they get out of wack I back off and get on primo for a while than back on a lower does OF TEST and everything go back to normal what get out of wack is in the blood test are liver kidney's psa I eat pretty dam clean but my LDL always stay high HELP Randytheram MAYBE I posted it in the wrong place and yes I did read the rules. Before you talk shit you have to learn how to read I did not say I was on for 33 years. I SAID THAT the man I was training under has been on for 33 years and that's was the way he does it and he has never had a health problem and he is a world record holder in 5 different weight class and trains the strongest guys in the world not all of us go to the gym to look at your self after each set I Randythram have been on for the last 5years I get 10cc bottle of test C from my doctor every month he keep up with all of my doings not just labs I said when I blast it for to long my labs go a little out of wack and they come right back so I like this site but I will just it take what I think is good there are always cunts behind the door that ruin it for the good