Need opinions. How would YOU incorporate TNE into this cycle?
So right now my current cycle is...
keep in mind this is my second cycle, so I don't want to be on too much gear, or go overboard. I'm planning on lowering Test Prop, is this necessary? If it is, how much would you lower it?
Also I should mention that my main interest in taking TNE is for the pre-workout properties it attains. I'm not entirely interested in using it to maintain stable blood levels and achieve muscle growth.
700mg Test Prop per week
350mg NPP per week
Letro - .625mg ED
Caber - .25mg EOD
However I just ordered TNE and I can't wait to try it out. I have a question for you guys though. Considering the extremely short half life of TNE, do you guys count it towards your overall weekly Anabolic intake? My initial idea was to lower the dose of Test Prop, not sure how much though. Probably something like 75mg ED.
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Get in the queue bro
I've been waiting for his stats and cycle history
Our guys are asking for stats and you come along and jump right in ?????????????????
I feel your jumping the gun here my friend. There are some warning signs here of 'over enfusiastic' steroid taking.
Stats, diet, experience, goals please.
cdaddy7Why are u using letro that is a big boy AI? Adex r aromasin is the picks. The letro and caber are on deck ancillary for issues. You need to give me your stats and your whole cycle plan including PCT so I can help. What was ur 1st cycle like? I want that too. This plan u got sucks ass and we need a new one
X2! Letro is a horrible idea. In case of emergency, break open glass! That's Letro! It suppresses estro by up to 98%! Bad money
This has not actually been shown to be completely false. That study which your referencing was done on women, which makes a fucking huge difference. It's been shown that Letrozole actually reduces estrogen less than Arimidex and Aromasin in young athletes. I believe the age was around 21 of the men the study was performed on.
X2.. also says this is second cycle,over a gram already before introducing TNE... somebody is trying to run before they can walk IMO.
Did you even read my post? I clearly stated that my intentions were to lower the dose of the other compounds to accommodate the addition of TNE. I would also state that I wish to use TNE primarily for its pre-workout properties than as a means of muscle growth.
x2 bro
Lay down your stats and cycle history:
It does count towards toward weekly amount of test. Its just shorter acting. I find it best to split the TNE into two doses a day in order to achieve stable bloods. If your test levels fluctuate a lot it may add to bloat. It is usefull as a PWO as it hits you in about an hour. I used 1cc as a PWO for about 1.5weeks and experienced bloat. If it were me Id make 75 TNE/ 50 prop mix.
cdaddy7It has an instant benefit but the half life is 8 hrs so theorectically you would need to split the dose up yo achieve a blood plasma level stable enough to benefit. And this guy's cycle sucks for a #2. I love TNE as PWO
I should have stated in my initial post, but my main interest is to use TNE as a preworkout, and not necessarily to maintain stable blood levels in order to achieve muscular gains. If you can provide me with your rationale as to why this cycle is so shitty I'd be happy to listen.
I'm very curious as to why you think his cycle sucks as a second cycle here honestly. Would I swap out the letro, of course, but other than that I think the way it currently is or my original idea is a pretty solid cycle. Especially for a second cycle not including orals.
Didnt you get banned yesterday on your other account? After you posted your picture?
What is the relevance to this thread here at all? And this is the same account FYI.
cdaddy7I'm biased because I'm not a Deca fan of any sorts and especially on a second cycle, but that's just me. I think he has the Test prop too high for a second cycle. I think a 100-150mg EOD is enough, but I believe that stepping off into a 2nd cycle with short esters is not smart. Maybe if he was to change the Test P to Test E then I might would view it different. Substituting the EQ for the NPP would be another wise choice. That is a complex cycle even though it is a simple looking one. And how do we even know that he ran his first cycle properly to warrant a 2nd cycle of such caliber. I just think it's too much too soon. For a person with more cycles under his belt I can def see your point, but after just one cycle I cant find myself to agree
http://www.eroids.com/forum/steroids-qa/steroid-cycles/need-advice-opini...
Here's your guys' original takes on his cycle. And a standard second cycle for the majority of the population is test and deca or test and eq. Depending on what his goals are, this is actually an excellent second cycle, especially if he's running it as a shorter cycle as it should be run. His doses are not outrageous, he could have went slightly lower like 600/300 but I think it's really not that terrible of a cycle at all. The ester doesn't really make a difference. Test is still test, so what would be the difference running prop vs enanthate vs sustanon here? except that prop stacks very nicely with npp.
cdaddy7And did u see my suggestion for that thread? Please go back and look
Yes I did, and that is where I disagree. I don't see anything wrong with adding a new compound to a second cycle. He utilized his first cycle doing what everyone says. "find out how your body reacts to test alone" so the problem here is what? It's not like he came in here running tren, he's running a very low dose of nandrolone with testosterone.
Thank you sir, thank you. I was of this same belief. I think most people are slightly concerned about the high dose of Letro, but I've already addressed my reasoning for this in several posts. I really can't possibly imagine anyone giving a good rationale as to why this is a shitty cycle, but I'm willing to listen.
cdaddy7The guy has sated he is gyno prone...Why would you think at this point NPP would even be a good option. I'm sorry but he needs a long test ester for this ride and def no 19nor of any kind
Progesterone gyno and estrogen related gyno are two completely things. I'm exiting this thread. You can have fun amongst yourselves.
I agree. The whole cycle and dosages/gear used sucks. Click his name...check his forums. I stayed off so i didnt blow a fuse. A normal perfect second cycle is typically a first cycle rerun. Receptors are fresh. Cdaddy nailed it clearly when he stated no adding dekka/eq etc til at least 4th cycle. I also agree in eq over dekka for lack of bad sides. I lift to look good and get laid. Leaky nips and useless Weiner doesn't get the hotties. Lol
I beg to differ.
Since the half life is so short the TNE would have left your body long before the week ends. However, a compound like test e should be added towards your weekly test amount.
If you're shooting every day anyway I would just do a 50/50 prop suspension split personally