Need advice / opinions (will be receptive / not hard headed)
Okay, so I'm running my second cycle at the moment. My first cycle was about 2 years ago and consisted of Testosterone Cypionate and Winstrol Depot. So right now, I'm 2 weeks into my second cycle, and this is what I'm running (will post below). So my question is, during my first cycle I really loved the results I got from Winstrol (Axio Labs). Fortunately for me, I didn't get ANY of the common side effects that most people attribute to it. That said, I'd really like to incorporate into my cycle in some way, but I really feel like keeping everything at the current doses, and just adding Winstrol at 50mg would be too much gear for me, and I really don't want to over do it. So my question is, how should I incorporate it into my cycle? Should I lower test and npp? Or should I just drop NPP entirely in a few weeks and replace it with Winstrol? How about just reducing one or the other, Test or NPP? I have some apprehensions about reducing only test and keeping NPP at the said dose, but let me know what you guys think, thanks.
Current Cycle:
Test Prop - 100mg Every Day
NPP - 50mg Every Day
HCG - 100IU Every Day
Cabergoline - .125mg Every Day
Letrozole - .5mg Every Day (Human grade pharmaceutical Femera. Again, I'm fortunate in that I can take .5mg and still feel amazing, absolutely no side effects to speak of, even when I combined this with Winstrol and Test in my previous cycle, no joint issues or anything.)
So how should I incorporate Winstrol into this cycle? Also, I should note that I can adjust the length of time that I should take each compound to anything I need to.
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I am actually running the same stuff right now. Just started a cycle of Dub G's BBL line: Test Acetate 100 mg ED, NPP 50 mg ED, Dbol 25 mgs ED. I was thinking of adding Masteron into the cycle also but I decided against it because I ran alot of gear my last cycle and decided to take it a little easier this time, more is not always better. What happens alot of times is people start to see great results from gear and then start reading about other compounds that are synergistic with something they are already currently taking. They then start to talk themselves into taking that compound also and so and and so forth and it ends up being way too many compounds all together. I think that your NPP and Test Prop will be perfect at those exact doses and you should just save the winny for your next cycle. Don't overload yourself and I never take the same compounds two cycles in a row, it seems to work better by giving me a break from those same compounds. Some people may disagree with me but it has all worked great for me so far.
your not ready just yet to run all those together, stick with what is said below, keep it simple. Personally I wouldnt ever run NPP and winstrol, generally one is for cutting and one is for bulking and you cant do both at the same time. This is an all around great second cycle, keep it like this and enjoy!
Great, thanks for your input. I'll probably just leave the Winny out then as it's probably not necessary after all. I'm loving these short esters!
Thanks for your input everbody. Fast48, I'm very aware of the signs of low estrogen and I've read plenty of horror stories, some even say they literally can't handle it and have to stop everything. Luckily I really don't have any joint pains, my libido is good as usual, and I feel great. For some reason I really don't get any of the commonly described sides. Would you guys not agree that Letrozole can be used extremely effectively in any cycle? It's a very potent compound and it's all about finding the perfect dose that doesn't completely crash your estrogen, for me that dose is around .4mg. I do have some Aromasin though fast48. I plan to keep it on hand when coming off Letro in case my estrogen rebounds.
I'm very experienced with maintaining a sterile injection process. Mjunkie, I feel like running NPP @ 350mg per week is a fair dose considering the 700mg of test I'm running as well. I have everything I need for pct including Clomid and Torem. I have Tamoxifen but I'd much rather use Torem.
Thanks for your input.
my comment was directed at fast48, he says u should do 50mg EOD...personally id go with 350mg a week, maybe he meant 50mg ED
Oh! Gotcha.
Sure wish ya posted earlier. Ya gotta expect a lil ribbing when ya didnt plan well. Stick with prop/npp. Keep it simple. Letro is very very heavy anti gyno meds. Go buy some aromasin asap. 12.5mgs/day and know all signs of low/high estro.. Low estro is as bad woth the bonus of feeling like squeaky ass and joint pains.
1-10prop 100eod
1-8npp 50eod
Pct starts 2days after last prop pin and lasts a month
Clomid 100...100...50...50
Nolva 40...40...20...20
Next time post prior to start up. It's always better to get an earfull than hurt yourself! I'm scared to even ask your age/bodyfat/etc. If your under 25 & only a week in STOP THIS CYCLE AND REGROUP!
Good post! I imagine you could get away with running that NPP till around week 9 maybe even 9 1/2...
Thanks bro! And yes...you're very correct since its halflife is so short.
just wondering..isnt the npp a bit of a low dose?
With npp being fast acting ive seen some of the advanced guys run it higher and if there's isdues then lower it. But didn't want a newer fellow having to guess as much and fighting sides. The fast ester combo will have him groing almost immediatly.
zewi+1 cause u could post and I couldn't and its good shit.. Money
Sheeeit.. The one you just bumped for that guys test/eq run was gold! I hope this guy has multi pin experience! Will help him avoid sterile abscess or worse.
cdaddy7LOL I see that he never surfs the forums. Second cycle should be test e or cyp only and thats all I got to say about that
X2 bro!
zewiI'm going to go to bed now.. I thin its a good time.. or uncle zewi might rage..