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NEED HELP WITH CYCLE - NEWBIE

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My stats; I’m 40 5’10 180lbs 15%bf around mid section, been lifting for about 3 years I also lift in my early 20’s for about 5yrs and did 1 cycle of test and deca don’t remember the results, nothing in my late 20’s and early 30’s do to back injuries. My goal is to be around 200lbs with 10-15%bf. 2 previous cycles, first cycle (about a year ago) 500mg test e gain about 12lbs. second was an anavar only cycle(6 months ago) that was a waste of money.

My next cycle

wk 1-12 test e 600mg (pin mon and thurs)

wk 1-10 deca 500mg (pin mon and thurs)

wk 1-6 dbol 50mg (ed)

wk 6-14 hcg 500iu (pin mon and thurs - 250iu each)

wk 1-14 arimidex .5mg (eod)

wk 15-18 clomid 150/150/100/50

My questions are:

  1. Should I start hcg sooner? I have only have 5000iu total.

  2. Is my pct solid enough to keep good gain after cycle or should I add nolva 40/40/20/20 together withClomid

  3. Should I incorporate Cabaser to my cycle and if I should how much and when?

  4. When should I stop arimidex at wk 12 or 14?

  5. With my goal to be at 200lbs (I’m a very hard gainer) and cycle experiences should I substitute deca for EQ or Primo

Any comments and feedback from knowledgeable and experience members are greatly appreciated.

jhtruong's picture

A while back I read somewhere that you’re not supposed to use nolva as a pct when using deca or tren. is that correct?

MONK's picture

As for pct I personal prefer sticking to nolva/clomid just purely to cover all bases. Additionally to that, try and stick to pharma Ai/pct if possible.

As my mighty knowledgeable homie irongame mentioned below dropping deca and sticking with Dbol is a perfectly feasible option for your goals but personally at this stage I prefer a prop kicker/taper which will still allow you achieve your goals minus the famous Dbol bloat as well as give you an insight to ed/eod injection protocol for future shorts ester cycles.

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Pale's picture

Listen to the monk.

irongame427's picture

Honestly i don't think you really need the deca at this point. You've only done one real cycle recently. I would just run test and dbol. If your diets good you should be able to hit 200 no problem on that with very little increase in bf. I know i would be able to.

allday222's picture

I agree with iron game , I don't think at this point you should add deca , 19 nors can be harsh and shut you down hard. Like iron game said with test e and dbol and a clean diet you should be able to hit those goals , as far as pct I would add nolvadex at 40/40/20/20. You should get blood work done for estrogen levels to see where you stand and too properly adjust adex and I would run it to the end of pct so you don't have estrogen rwbound at the end if you need it depending on blood work

jhtruong's picture

A while back I read somewhere that you’re not supposed to use nolva as a pct when using deca or tren. is that correct? i will reconsider not adding deca.