need help and advice on my current cycle
Hello guys, I need some help over here to make sure everything is okay because I personally think that with a bit of advice, I could improve things in my cycle and diet.
I am ~215lbs and ~17-19% bf and 185cm so nearly 6'1.
My goal is to pack as much muscle mass as possible. As much as I am a hard gainer when it comes to packing on muscle, I have no excuse not to put time in improving my diet.
Right now I am trying to eat as much as I can. Not a smart thing. But I mentally approximate 260-300g protein, 100-150g fat, 350-400g carbs. I try to aim for 3500calories. My maintenance is around 2900calories.
*Note: I started bulking 5weeks ago. I took 2-3weeks to harden up before I started bulking.
My drug cycle:
Testosterone Enanthate @175mg eod since 53days
Trenbolone Acetate @100mg eod since 53days
Nandrolone Phenyl-propionate @120mg eod since 11days
Arimidex @0.375mg ed
Pramipexol @0.75mg ed
T3 @0.25mcg ed for protein synthesis and tren's ability to decrease natural thyroid hormones. Also helps keep unnecessary fat off.
Maybe you guys could shine in and help me out a little. I am unsure if I am eating enough protein/fats or eating too much carbs.
Also I feel like I could improve my cycle and make it more effective. By more effective I mean many remove tren or npp and up test with the Nandrolone I've kept. I am aiming for maximum muscle mass this cycle. Running two 19-nors is tricky but I am not prone to prolactin side effects. I've ran tren ace at 980mg a week without caber or prami. I was perfectly good. No limp dick or puffy niples. Will I do that again? No because it was stupid and not worth it. I don't need that much tren. 350 is doing the same job to me right now as 980mg.
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& i thought i was hardcore because i was using 2 injectables & 1 oral... Lmao..
I am going to go out on a limb here and say you guys have been trolled....And TBH I really hope it was a troll and not just a really dumb 19 year old......
Bro, are you kidding me? Your 19 years old, running 2 19-nors, past cycles including a gram of tren......nevermind I'm out. You should be nowhere near steroids for the next 6 years if you value your health.
Haha you dont want to take on this one bro? Lol..
na, the days of me giving 10 minute long speeches on why kids shouldn't use steroids is over. Ive learned to save my energy, they dont listen. And this dudes already ran a fucking gram of tren in the past. He aint coming off no matter what i say.
TYa i seen that..its sad how kids these days could give a fuck less about their health, physically and mentally..they got no clue how bad tren can fuck with the mind
mr_ectomorphMy fifth tren cycle. I know exactly what tren does. Walk up 2 floors, I will struggling to catch breath bakck. And tren rage I get that a lot. But I try to control it. All regular tren sides. And the coughs I rarely get those anymore
Your 5th tren cycle at 19? How old were you when you did your first cycle and how many have you done total? And why are you 20% bf at 215lbs after 5 cycles of tren and god knows how many other cycles?
mr_ectomorphI took 6 months off due to an injury. I was 235 17% on my 3rd cycle.
I recently started again in end of june. Cruised in august. Came back and it's when I fixed things and took my training seriously again.
At any age running tren has a high risk of not recovering and ending up in trt for life, now do that at 19 years old stacked with another 19-nor. This kids fucked.
mr_ectomorphI just need help on that cycle. I've been told the same on twenty different forums. I don't need to lie about my age to get some answers. I want to be truthful and just get some advice at least. I am not coming off. Planning on competing later on. Therefore I am blast and cruising
I am well aware about damaging my endocrine system. I've already done tests, everything is okay.
Let me stop you kidding yourself any longer for your own sake. 19 years old and 5 tren cycles to achieve what you have tells me you don't eat or train correctly. The stage is a million miles away unless you change what you're doing. I'm not telling you this to upset you, but some times the truth can be harsh. You're messing yourself up for no reason. When everyone keeps telling you the same thing there's a reason.
I'm going to let you stick around for the time being to see if you'll soak any of this up. BUT if I see another immature deluded comment along the lines of "I'm never coming off" for your own good you won't be staying.
mr_ectomorphTbh, these are my cycles:
500mg test e 12 weeks with 150mg var for 4weeks (end of cycle)
Test prop, tren ace mast prop. Dropped the mast couple weeks into the cycle and slowly upped my tren from 350 to 980. I had low dose prop. I started off 350, went to 500 and went down to 210. I was experimenting to see how my body reacts on different dosages of test and tren. I also threw in 20mg superdorl at the end of the cycle for 17days
3rd cycle was my best but had to cut it short due to an injury. It was something like this:
1.4g test e week 1-12
700mg npp week 1-6
600mg eq week 1-12
265mg tren ace week 7-12
Gh 4ius ed
Humalog and igf1-lr3
However I cut the cycle short 7weeks. Was getting help from a very knowledgeable coach bostin loyd. As most of you should know, one of the biggest 22year old bber out there 257lbs 10% bf. He is tall between 6'2-6'3 forgot.
Cruised 250mg test c every week for 6months. I came back around june. I did a short cycle of 42 days before vacation and it consisted of the following:
875mg test e
265-310mg tren ace
50-100mcg t3
40-100mcg clen
1mg adex ed
I was following bostin loyds carb cycling diet. 1 day carb(~90g) 1 day no carbs. I'd have around 170g fat ed. Around 3.1-3.5k cals a day. Went from fat no muscle to very leaner with a lot more muscle mass and strength. It was a tremendous 42 day transformation.
I cruised 500mg test e on vaca. Yes... I cruised on 500mg, test is test I felt great on it. Couldn't train last 2weeks of vaca and diet was completely off there. Training soso.
Came back home and first night I pinned:
Test e 612.5mg
Tren ace 350mg
T3 25mcg
Couple weeks into my cycle I threw in npp for some joint support and to help with fulness.
So my bad.... that's only my 3rd tren cycle. I've had quite complications in the past year figuring out how to workout my bodybuilding life while living with my family at home. It's not easy but I have things figured out now. I am planning on going back with Bostins service. He helps to motivate and transform me in who I need to be. I don't need to fear anything with him. He knows so much everything goes as planned. However, I don't have the money for so far, so I am on my own for now. All I am asking is for little help.
Now we've got insulin, HGH and T3 And all because Bostin Lloyd says it's the way to go. You're clearly a risk taker, this community isn't that way inclined.
There's no cycle advice for anyone your age here. Diet and training help you don't want so there's nothing for you here. I'm not having this type of example shown to other more responsible AAS users. Nothing I can do for you except show you the door.
So you ready to pin yourself for the rest of your life? Even if you stop bodybuilding? Possibly not being able to have children, dick not working, being a slave to a needle to feel normal until the day you die.
mr_ectomorphI don't ever see my dick not working anymore on test. But, yea i don't mind pining everyday, every other day, e3d, once a week. It's literally a 2min procedure lol. I'm sure I could earn prescribed test later on in my life, which I see no point in because I have a great source selling me top notch hormones. Ive been doing it for over a year already. I know the travelling procedures pre loading syringes, etc. All easy stuff. I actually enjoy it. And hcg will give me kids. I don't have worries. Unless there is something you know that I don't which I am missing out on. Cruised for 6 months though was out of the gym due to complications. But ive been back for over a month now
Nothing is set in stone fertility wise, i could bring a few members into this thread who cant have kids because of steroid use and trt. And they waited until their hpta was fully developed before they started using. At 19 yours is still years away from finishing developing, so the risk of sterility is even higher. Just something to think about.
When i was 19 what i wanted in life and what i was doing in life were very different then what I'm doing now at 25, life changes, proritiys change. Youre young, dont make decisions that will effect you for the rest of your life when you not mature enough to be making them. The things that made sense to me when i was 19 make no logical sense to me now.
mr_ectomorphIsn't all of that prevented with the use of hcg? I don't mean the hpta recovery of course or the kick start of natty test. I just mean with the use of hcg, won't that prevent you from going sterile? It mimics LH and gives your balls size again. I know it is used to kickstart endogenous testosterone during pct or to keep balls in size during cycle to make pct recovery easier.
Yes steroids make your sperm count lower. I wonder if hcg somehow helps. I've read about trt patients using certain amount of hcg every week to keep their testies functioning properly.
Amen on that last sentence..
mr_ectomorphI started bulking 5weeks ago at 194 lbs. Now I am at 215 lbs upon waking and 224 at night. I eat so much that I have trouble breathing at the end of the day. Thing is I have the worst appetite you could possibly imagine. I sit down and kill myself to swallow food. I literally spend 60% of my day sitting trying to shove food down. I should have considered ghrp6 and eq.
I threw in npp because strength gains started putting pressure on my joints.
I have tried recomping on tren. I did a carb cycling diet. No carbs one day and the other I'd eat around 90g. My fats were around 170g and proteins were very high, maybe 300g+. I was consuming around 3.1-3.5k cals a day and this is when I did the craziest progress on tren. Now I am eating 4x as many carbs, less fat and around the same amount of protein. I feel no difference in gains and strength. I just feel a lot more watery and bloated and fat. When I was recomping I was a furnace losing fat. But I was also on 870mg test e and 265-310mg tren ace, clen and t3.
I have a feeling that high fats, moderate carbs, high protein is more suitable for me. I walk all day with the mother of bloats. Imagine waking up at 215 and sleeping at 224...
Only a 19 year old could devote 60% of their day to eating. You should NOT consider ghrp6 and eq, what you should consider is stopping what you are doing.
mr_ectomorphSeriously lol I just want some help here I am not stopping the juice. I know most of you have a lot better knowledge on this stuff than I do. But the last thing on my list is getting off my hormones.
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Well running two 19-Nors at once is a recipe for permanent shut down as my friend can tell you
And yes you do need to eat more. I am a hard gainer as most would call it. I am 5'10 and have a lower bf and I'm at 200 right now. I'm eating 4000 calories as of now and the past three weeks I've been recomping while on test 150 and npp 100 eod. You running much more compounds than I and are eating less. Keep in mind your metabolism goes up on gear because muscle burns a ton of calories. With your height and the amount of gear you're running, you should easily be consuming 5000 calories a day. A buddy of mine ran a stupid cycle ( over 1g of tren!) and he was eating 8000 calories a day and even he had trouble putting on more mass and he easily puts on weight
mr_ectomorph@mTor sorry I replied to myself, I am new to this forum.