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Need Good Advice on the HCG and PCT on my cycle!!!!

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As I learn and research on what is best for my body and jewels. Does this cycle look good for a bulking cycle with the proper hcg and pct?

1 Sus 600 deca 300 weekly dbol 25 ed
2 Sus 600 deca 300 wk dbol 25 ed
3 Sus 600 deca 300 wk dbol 50 ed
4 Sus 600 deca 300 wk dbol 50 Ed
5 Sus 800 deca 400 wk HCG 250iu twice week
6 Sus 800 deca 400 wk HCG 250 iu twice wk
7 Sus 800 deca 400 wk HCG 250iu tw wk
8 Sus 800 deca 400 wk HCG 250iu tw wk
9 Sus 800 deca 400 wk HCG 250iu tw wk
10 test e 900 wk deca 400 wk HCG 250iu tw wk .25 Prami ed
11 test e 900 wk deca 400 wk HCG 250iu tw wk .25 Prami ed
12 test e 600 wk HCG 250iu tw wk .50 Prami ed
13 test e 600 wk HCG 250iu tw .50 Prami ed
14 test e 300wk .50 Prami ed
15 test e 300 wk .50 Prami ed
16 test e 300 wk .50 Prami ed
Two weeks after last pin
Nolva 40/40/20/20 for 4

thepullmanator's picture

Standard pct includes clomid 100/100/50/50 and nolva 20/20/10/10 BOTH.
Ai is a must adex or aromasin. Im not telling the doses bc its easy to find and its something very crucial you need to learn through research aned why they are important. Ai Starts first week if running oral like dbol if im not mistaken. Caber or prami is a MUST with a 19nor cycle. Do some research in the pct forums all your answers lie thier

P's picture

Nice!!!
+1

Mooseknuckle4u's picture

Thanks

P's picture
  • Stats
    Age: 35
    Height: 6'3
    Weight: 255
    BF: 11

  • Cycle History?

  • Goals....Bulk?

Mooseknuckle4u's picture

I have also taken your advice on how to reconstitute HGC. Great info with pics. Thanks P

Mooseknuckle4u's picture

My goal with this cycle is to bulk. Currently my weight is 235 and have been cycling for the past five years.

P's picture

No problem. Can you list out your previous cycles, so i can see your experience level and experience with compounds...for example;

Week 1-12 Test E 500mg/wk
PCT (15 days after last Test E shot)
Aromasin 12.5/12.5/6.25/6.25
Nolvadex 20/20/10/10
Clomid 100/100/50/50

Mooseknuckle4u's picture

Last 4 cycles - In which did not include the proper pct and al.

Last cycle four months off excluding pct
Week 1-10 Sus 600mg/wk
Week 1-4 anavar 50 mg ed
Week 1-12 deca 250mg/wk
Week 11-16 test cyp 800
Week 12-17 Prami .25 every night
After two weeks of last shot
Clomid 100/100/50/50

4 months prior + pct
Week 1- 8 Sus 600
Week 9 - 12 test E 600
Nolva 20/20/10/10

4 months prior + pct
Week 1-10 Sus 600mg/wk
Week 1-2 anadrol 25mg/ ed
Week 3 anadrol 50mg/ed
Week 11-12 test cyp 800mg/wk
Week 13-14 test cyp 400mg/wk
Nolvadex 20/20/10/10

5 months prior + pct
Week 1-10 Sus 600mg/wk
Week 1-2 anadrol 25mg/ ed
Week 3 anadrol 50mg/ed
Week 11-12 test cyp 800mg/wk
Week 13-14 test cyp 400mg/wk
Nolvadex 20/20/10/10

P's picture

Great reply +1

IMO i personally think a well put-together Test E + EQ cycle will make you achieve your goals, which is to bulk. EQ is one of my favourite compounds and in actual fact if you browse through my pictures and cycles you will see that EQ is one of the most frequently occurring AAS compounds i have in stock at all times. The reason why i prefer EQ over deca is simply because it yields fantastic results without any of the 19-nor side effects, so there's no deca-dick, no progesterone build-up and no other sides associated with deca, however, there is all the gains and more with a well put-together EQ cycle.

The method below of front-loading the EQ for 2 weeks will make sure that you hit a peak in EQ levels around week 3, as opposed to week 5/6 resulting from a 1 week front-load.

Here's one ways you can front-load your EQ:

Consider the half life of EQ for instance. 14 days.

If you would do this normally at... lets say 600/wk then after 2 weeks without any injection you would have 800 ish half life residue + 600 (injection) = 1400mg in your blood. This is what is actually effective on your receptors. It is slow releasing. In theory frontloading the amount you would normally have at the week that the substance is supposed to "kick in" will have it kicking in right away.

For the EQ you may do 1200mg for week 1 and resume normal dosing for the rest of the cycle if you're doing a 12 wk cycle. If you're planning a shorter one then preload EQ a bit more, but I wouldn't consider doing a 8 week cycle on EQ alone. (See: http://www.eroids.com/cycle_logs/eq-exploration-a-different-viewpoint)

Also, have a look at this thread, i found it very useful: http://www.eroids.com/forum/steroids-qa/steroid-cycles/front-loading-vs....

A front load of EQ for 2 weeks will see your levels reach 1800 by week 3 and remain at this dose consistently. This option is definitely the best, although you don't peak as high, you reach your peak by week 3, and then that peak is maintained throughout the rest of the cycle. So this way is clearly the best option for running an eq ace + eq und cycle.

By front-loading EQ for 2 weeks results in peak levels by week 3. If you run EQ cyp alongside this, it is unnecessary since you have the same compound in your body twice (since both estered variants of the same compound) are in your system. However what i would recommend is an EQ ace and EQ undecylenate cycle, where you are front-loading with the EQ ace in the period in which it takes for the undecylenate ester to kick in.

Also, for a front-load of the undecylenate ester, you have the option of running it for 12 weeks (for example) since it 'gets to work', in this case from week 3-12, and with an EQ ace kicker, you have the EQ compound in your system from weeks 1-12 (aka. the whole cycle period).
However, you do have another option, which is to run an EQ ace and EQ cyp cycle, in much the same format as a test prop and test e cycle. A 12 weeker will be sufficient in this case, and the cyp ester will be valuable in this case too.

To conclude, to get the best value for your money when running multiple EQ esters is to either use an EQ ace + EQ cyp cycle OR to run an EQ ace + EQ undecylenate (front-loaded for 2 weeks) cycle. They can both be ran for 12 weeks and I am definitely considering this for my next cycle.

Ensure that you read my Pre-Cycle Protocol before you begin and you'll be all set!

Cycle Layout

Week 1-4 Testosterone Propionate 150mg/EOD
Week 1-2 EQ 1200mg/wk (this is your front-load, dose evenly throughout the 2 weeks)
Week 1-18 Testosterone Enanthate 600mg/wk (split into 2 doses)
Week 3-18 EQ 600mg/wk (split into 2 doses)
Week 13-18 Anavar 75mg/ED
Week 19-21 Testosterone Propionate 100mg/EOD (this is to taper you smoothly into your PCT)
Week 2-21 Aromasin 12.5mg/EOD (increase if sides appear)

PCT (Begin PCT 3 days after last Test P shot)

Aromasin 12.5/12.5/6.25/6.25
Nolvadex 20/20/10/10
Clomid 100/100/50/50

thepullmanator's picture

holy six monther!!!! that sounds like the bees nees!

Mooseknuckle4u's picture

Thanks P, great advice. I have been reading your forums. I have learned more over the last few days reading your forums than I have learned over past few years from other guys. Thanks

P's picture

Thanks brother, appreciate it Smile