+ 2 My finalized first cycle *updated*
Ok first things first let me make all the vets all warm and fuzzy and start with my stats
Age: 23
Height: 5'10
Weight: 165-170
BF %: unknown at the moment, i will be having a buddy at the gym do a equifit, which is basically an assessment the personal trainers do at this gym to determine an individuals weight bf and stuff like that to determine what they would need to do before training someone.
Anyway with all that being said i understand my age is a little on the young side and have plenty of natural test producing right now and I totally understand and respect these statements. However I have been an athlete just about my whole life and have always been doing some type of physical activity weather it be playing sports, or in the gym throwing weight around. Being that this will hopefully be my first "legit" cycle(got burned on omegas super test 400, different story different day) I am going to be smart and keep it simple with a test only cycle as follows:
12 week cycle beginning April 1st consisting of Test E/Test P
Weeks 1-4 test prop 100mg eod
Weeks 1-12 test e 500mg a week split into two shots mon/Thursday
*was possibly considering added anavar the last 4 weeks at 50mg ED due to my motivation to wanna get more cut but think I can achieve that with the right diet without the anavar? Any suggestions?
PCT starts week 14 consisting of Clomid 100/100/50/50 and Nolva 40/40/20/20
My goals for this cycle is to pack on some lean muscle finally getting my abs to show, while gaining muscle definition and vasculairty My
diet will be what I will be focusing the remainder of my time before cycle because even though I believe I eat clean; chicken fish sweet
patatos veggies greens fruits nuts and proteins and all that good stuff it could be better and I know it. I plan on consuming 3-3500 calories
a day but I want to gain better understanding of the ratio between carb fats and proteins(yes I know the basics about 1.5g protein per
pound and all the good stuff) but wanna get a good diet on paper as I tend to follow things better when it's laid out in a routine for
ipdate Meal Plan..now I can only take 10% credit for this meal plan and the only reason I even get 10% is because it's for me haha otherwise 90% goes to very stand up helpful member who does nutrition as his job outside of eroids stepped forward to help me make my first cycle perfect!! So BIG BIG S/O TO SARGENT_SWOLE!!!! ..anyway here's the plan
Nutrition Program (keep the shakes for two weeks, then we'll talk about
substituting) -
Meal 1 - 6 whole eggs, 1 cup oatmeal (dry measure) mixed with water or you may do 2 whole wheat bagels with sugar free jelly!
Meal 2 - 2 scoops whey isolate (mixed with water), 2tbsp natural peanutbutter
Meal 3 - 8oz chicken (cooked weight), 8oz sweet potato, 1 cup of green veggies
Meal 4 - 2 scoops whey isolate (mixed with water), 2tbsp natural peanutbutter
Meal 5 - 7oz chicken (red meat or salmon the night before leg training),8oz sweet
potato, small salad with light dressing
Meal 6 - 3 whole eggs and 1 scoop of casien
Pre-workout - whatever you choose to use!
During-workout - 4 scoops Xtend
Post-workout - 2 scoops whey isolate, 1 scoop of Karboyln
I want you to drink 1 gallon of water per day. You may also drink diet drinks, diet
energy drinks, Crystal Light, coffee, and tea.
You may use condiments and seasoning.
You may have two cheats per week, one clean and one dirty.
Supplements-
Flaxseed- 1 serving with meal 1, 3 and 6
GNC vitamin- 1 serving meal 1 and and post meal
Will probably also follow his workout plan to give my body a all around shock and chance to really grow
Me. Any advice is highly appreciated!
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Dont spend your money on supplements. Use that money for better things. my 2 cents
Thanks guys for the input and hllwdbdboy know hate to see it at such young age but no love for the time and prep?
Not downing the time and prep lil bro... I just think you (and ALL of you 20somethings) have plenty of time (and natty) before you turn to AAS. Look at our own Goth who is a BEAST at almost 50 and is just NOW turning to AAS.
If you are in your 20's (and haven't tested low or maybe if you're competing) then its nothing more than impatience (and with some laziness) which, unfortunately, is one of the hallmarks of being young.
I have no doubt that in 15 years many of you guys will be beating the same drum to the youngsters (that won't listen to you) : )
I kinda did test low though...when I was running omegas gear I got my bloods done and my level was 276 granted it not why I'm running a cycle but it was low
Good good good mike7 well thought out and you have laid it out well also bro!respect to you for taking a back step on your first plans because you have come back far stronger here! i wish you all the best on this run and hope you get the results you deserve. +3 for being sensible and putting all you have learned together very well
Sargent_SwoleROCK THE SWOLE PLAN!!!!
Before this is all said and done I am going to have a handful of minons getting SWOLE together lol!!! Best of luck brother!
All of you youngsters can support and encourage each other all you want but you can't "educate" yourselves out of your physiology and chemical makeup and you cant "research" yourselves into patience and discipline
"WE" were young once too so we get that you guys are gonna do WTF you want cuz "you know better" but its just so sad to watch you guys cheat yourselves out of TRUE potential with shortcuts.
((SIGH)) Youth is wasted on the young : /
Good on you swole for doing the right thing here i like the teamwork aspect this is how it should be +3 to you also brother.
Sargent_Swolewe all need guidence man and he just had to ask!!! just like with any one lol as long as your not competing against me your my BFF!!!! lol
Check out my finalized meal plan
Goo shit bro
i'm about to run my first cycle with test-e only...i'm 23 yo ...same dosage...KEEP US POSTED ! you can PM me if you want to bro! you will love this cycle for sure
NastyNateOther than being "too young" it's a great cycle mike7....I agree to not mess with the var in the end and just see how u can meet ur goals with proper diet. All in all though, I know there's no changing ur mind and your ginna pin, so enjoy ur first real cycle bro. Just make sure ur prop isn't OMEGA dog piss!
Oh no i got some legit gear coming this time. Some kalpa pharma test and Veryon test and pct coming in I believe. Once they do pics will be posted and will review the source
Another youngin doing a cycle, grrr! well your older than me so suppose I can't be saying that, but from my view you did your homework very well! your routine looks on the dot, Goodluck on your cycle! all the best bro. keep us posted when you start!
You know me brother im with scoot over your age "but" you have done yourself proud laying that post out,everything looks right to me you have done your homework well.
IMO drop the var use this run to refine your nutritional knowledge with the test to keep bf and water stable,master that on this run and you will have done well,using the var will not allow you to assess in the same way,stay focused and good luck man
You're too young.... Of course you are not going to listen so I wont go there but you are wasting what nature gave you at your age. With that being said the cycle looks ok, its your basic first cycle except for the edition of the prop. It would be better to just run straight test e though the prop wont hurt but stay away from the anavar. Pct looks cool too. Just remember your results are going to come from your diet eat right, train hard, and rest. Did I mention you're too damn young.
Wait so I'm the perfect age right? ;) lmao just playing i really do respect both of your guys advice and understand the age aspect, Im Stubborn and probably stupidly so but I'm not the first kid my age to do it and won't be the last, but all that aside, I was thinking bout the prop and wasn't sure if should add it or not but I did pin before even though gear was bunk but think it will be ok.