My bulking cycle turning into cutting cycle half way through! Fine with me
1St off Im doing this for myself an average joe no pro. I'm starting my 7th week on test e 500/deca 400 split in half and pinned twice a week. Had a 5 week 30-40mg dbol kicker. Also had a 2 week kicker of test prop tren a, WHAT A DUMB MOVE. That test p tren ace was my first experience with aas and was left over cause i couldn't finish it due to horrible pip. I was waiting on my packages to start the above mentioned cycle and the dbol arrived 1st so i said what the hell, ill use the rest of the test and tren with dbol to start. I could be in an even better position had I been better prepared but, it is what it is. After I got burned with bunk/underdosed RC AI's 2.5 weeks in, I had to scramble for some pharm grade AI's. I was noticing some prostate problems and sensitive nips. No lumps or anything. Now back on track. Used some caber letro for 2 weeks at low doses and tapered, using exedrol for a daily Ai. Also have been using 500ui of hcg throughout cycle. Week 6, I added 100mg test p eod and 200mg tbol ed. I don't drink alcohol and eat good. I scaled up my cardio 2 weeks ago and have been dropping fat and water weight. Getting definition like a mother in upper body. My shoulder chest, Biceps and triceps are getting nice. Wife says my chest looks like I have implants. I was offended until she said it looks tight, not drooping.
So I thought my bulk cycle was going to just automatically swell me up no matter what. I now know it's all on how you eat and train not just the type of aas you're using. I will be posting a full on record with pics when done. This will be a 12 week cycle.
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Listen bro I too am a hard gainer I started lifting weighing about 135lbs at 5'9.off cycle I got to 200lbs by training and eating. 3k cals isn't even close to enough to gain weight no point in gear if your not eating enough. You want to gain u need to eat with in ten mins of waking.its called breakfast bc u are breaking the fast while sleeping. I thought I ate alot too until I sat down and counted cals. Do your self a favor and count cals and protien. You need around 1.5-2grms per lb of bw to gain.Also meals should be spaced every 2-3hrs,I had to learn to eat when I was full. So full one more bite and I puke then jam one more bite and keep it down.On top of eating if u arent sleeping enough to recover you wont grow.do your self and wallet a favor and train a few years off gear and learn basics of bulking then come back to gear later
Agreed. Thanks for some serious advice. I'm done with pct now. Lost the weight I gained on cycle but I kept some muscle definition. I started looking more cut on pct. Don't know why. im still pushin it and will eat more.
https://www.eroids.com/pics/beginner-progress
Im not even going to explain myself again, enough said in all the post.
I didn't know there was a 1 pic post per day limit. Ill add more Tomorrow. There are 2 pics in this link. 1 has three different progress pics. The second separate pic was one taken earlier during this cycle. also the 1st top pic of the 3 was taken today. I'm a beginner so I'm not really big yet. But I'm working on it
https://www.eroids.com/pics/back-progress-12
Fella you can take this whatever way you please, but having looked at your pics and what you've posted here you're getting this all wrong IMO. I'm not saying that to piss you off, far from it actually, but it looks like you're in such a rush to recover from the surgeries you had that you're throwing gear here there and everywhere without getting the basics right. I'm looking at your pics and you're not achieving what you should be. Do you think you look like you're on steroids? Honestly? Do you think anyone would even suspect? Take a step back and be objective about it.
I understand you. And the last thing I want is for someone to look at me and say he's on roids. But I was skinny and I have only been lifting free weights for 6 months straight. Before that I was lifting on and off for 4 months here and then I'd quit for a year and party. You are right I'm not gaining like I should and will plan better next time. I posted some more pics
you can add multiple pics to one post... go to your pic, click edit then add another image via upload
ok. you guys are right. but i may have taken the word cutting and related it to losing wieght. I wasnt eating enough carbs at times. Im actually not losing weight. started at 208, 210 then shot up to 221 after week 1. I assume the dbol was making me hold water. I slowly dropped a few pounds through out was down to 215, but my muscle are more defined and alround look more lean but I am still at 218 220. I forgot to mention the Ive been on addreall for the past 5 years. maybe thats effecting all this. Some people cant eat on adderall but I have no problem what so ever. Maybe the first time i was prescribed it 5 years ago. Anyways, I have to take the add meds. I dont just inject and pop pills. I put in work and eat. My metabolisim has always been raging. I eat at least 3000 calories a day and even more when I add in the protein shakes. A wide varity of good meats, raw milk and veggies. I still see and feel a huge change in my my body. I dont think it is a complete waste. Yes couldve been better prepared but this is my first time and I dont mind what I have so far. People who go out 3 days a week and waste their liver at a bar spending $200 a night and still cycle are more to worry about. I will wrap this up with you guys are right, Some ill planning on my part. Now that I actually have some people willing to help me plan the next time will be better. I literally have one pin left today of the test e deca. after that Im going to use some test prop to tapper off. The TBOL I'm stopping immediately. I know its hard to believe anything online but I wish I wouldve took measurement on my arms, shoulders, chest ect. It will me an accomplishment if I keep these gains after pct. All my personal goals started after a doulbe knee surgery 16 months ago. I was 185 pound and pilled out. During Physical Therapy I made a promise to keep going to great health and 225 pounds lean. I appreciate the feed back, all of it.
Anonlol, sounds like a mess, generally, people who say im cutting now instead of bulking, arent dieting properly, not enough calories etc, energy in energy out etc etc, its the same with people who come off cycle lose 7kgs then tell people their cutting, be real! get of all the bs orals and what ever else your doing, taper of for a week with test prop only and hit a good pct, this is bs!
Like everyone else said, don't just inject and pop pills.
But about your health, you really need to stop what your doing, wait, then start up PCT. You would be doing yourself a favor, and like Gearhead said, then we will build a cycle that is like a musical symphony, not a high school deaf marching band.
I hope you read what everyone is telling you! Please reply back!
Thanks, I agree. I did play in band in middle school for one year. tone deaf for sure
Bro,
I'm not going to pick on you. We're here to help. Anabolic steroid cycles are designed so the drugs work together like a musical symphony with each compound harmonizing with the others. Bro, you're just injecting drugs with no obvious planning. I agree with everyone below who is telling you to shut this down, wait, and start PCT. Next time around we can put some engineering into the cycle. I don't feel like writing a novel so that's all from me at this point. Happy to help you in the future.
Best,
GH
Thanks. I appreciate you reaching out. I could be a beast with my stature, 6'6" 80" wing span, but I dont have time for gym friends with tips and mostly work out at home. I used to have lifting buds but they stayed single. Ive got all the equipment i need and If i need to I go to the gym just for the specialized machines.
I couldnt agree more with rusty ,×2 stop and pct. , and to keep it respectful ill stop there
RustyhookerStop everything! Wait then pct.
You know pct???
×2 +1.
maybe its just cus i woke up but what is the question here? ..or is there none and this just a cute anecdote you decided to share?
I would say go and get a blood test done and let's see your estrogen levels at present and please go get prostate checked
"it looks tight, not drooping" classic.. Post some pics of the manboobs and let Eroids be the judge!
https://www.eroids.com/pics/beginner-progress
They might not be huge but no moobies
will do
I don't really know what to say here..... How many cycles have you done? Is what you stated above really all true?
yes its true. Id rather explain in pm to tell you the brands and the difficulty I had with one. But yes, I was pre warn to do test only by jellotrip. I got ahead of myself
Anon200mg of tbol per day?
I appreciate the concern. I dont have but a couple weeks left and my BP is ok, so im going to finish. The deca is now gone. maybe 2ml of test e left and i still have test p. The tbol is 20mg. Not 200mg. Im on liver protector and a great am pm cleated multi vitamin I'm feeling fine and my blood pressure is fine. No more prostate "problems". I had an issues pissing which I think was prostate being inlarge. I had a prostate examine last year with full blood panel, ekg the whole deal. Everything is great and normal for a man my age and that was February 2014. I didn't eat as health back then. That was well before I ever tried aas. I have bloods scheduled for next week. I know jello told me to keep the 1st one test only. And I agree now. But after the problems seemed to smooth out, I've been making progress and feel great. Ive done worse to my body with other shit when I was a teen. You guys think I should stop right away? I'll post a pic of my so called man boobs, and let the you guys decide. They are tight not any gyno bs.
Just to understand what went down can you please write out how this cycle went?
Like something like this:
EXAMPLE:
Weeks 1-12: 500mg/wk Testosterone Enanthate
yes but if I do Ill have to add in the screwed up beginning with that test p/ tren ace mishap. Ill get in a little later times up for me.