posted Mon, 08/08/2011 - 05:08
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Hey guys i've been researching a lot about a basic 4 week cycle, most cycles include pins and i am trying to stay far away from that. I still have a lot of research to do before i purchase my first cycle but i was just wondering what are your thoughts. What would be a good ORAL ONLY 4 week cycle. What should i take during / After the cycle (nolva, Milk thistle) Ect i need someone to get into specifics with me and it would be highly appreciated.
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Weight - 140 LBS
Height - 5,9"
Age - 24 years
P.S YES I AM KNEW TO ROIDS I HAVE MONTHS OF RESEARCH AHEAD OF ME BUT I WANT TO KNOW YOUR THOUGHTS AND IF YOU CAN POINT ME IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION!
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Thanks for your help everyone. @kwabby i did not once say i was going to start cycling ASAP i still have a lot of research ahead of me if i do cycle it'll be in 3-4 months once i have more knowledge about roids. For my first cycle i am trying to stay as far away from pins as possible. There was no need to flame, i was just asking for reasonable advice/opinions i might change my mind and take needles but for now i have my mind set on oral only.
wasn't tryna flame I was talking to other members to see if they read your stats first. I guess im just more direct... aside from that my bad if you took it that way. But yes you are def doing the smart thing and reading up on it first. But def dont do an oral only cycle. If you have your mindset on oral only, then you really might want to reconsider doing this. I say read up more like you say you are gonna do and you'll soon realize that nobody really does an oral only cycle except for people who are new, scared to take the plunge, or shouldn't be using aas in the first place. I was nervous about needles in the first place. But what I did to get over them was: Buy the needles, look at them everyday months before I jump on cycle, Take one out and REALLY observe it, and you'll realize the thing is so small it probably wont hurt going in, honestly. Also PM if you want a few good videos on how easy injects are. You'll soon realize there are plenty of girls around our age, who have to plunge like once a week because they want to be Males (FTM Transsexuals)and they have no fear. Good luck tho
Did anybody actually read this guys stats? With those stats your cycle should consist of carbs, proteins, minor fats. you can stack this with creatine, Protein shakes and Preworkout drinks. Do MAJOR COMPOUND MOVEMENTS which include the basic: squats, Deadlifts and bench. Sorry bro, you are DEFINITELY not ready to cycle. Also you will find out from many experienced users that If you are not ready to do injectables, then you are not ready for an AAS which includes orals. Even if you were gonna do orals, 4 weeks isn't enough for ANYTHING but shutdown. I say do a ton more research bro. Im 4 years younger than you (although 5 inches taller) and 65 lbs heavier than you. Im going to be starting my first cycle in Sept and all the info I have learned was just thru lurking the boards! I just started posting about a month ago on any forum but I was also reading. if you need more help on sites which you can find this info, PM me.
lmao, so you really think 4 weeks of dbol will do nothing but shut him down? bo, ive been doing this since you were a little baby, 4 week of dbol, will shut him down, but he will see results, a good bit of it will be water weight, but his strength will increse, he will gain size. and if he takes the right pct he should keep a good bit, if all dbol did was shut people down and they saw no gains then why frontload with the stuff?? it is obviously doing something. i have loads of friends who have started off doing a dbol only cycle, they gained real nice and kept half of it from a good pct. however its nothing compared to running a test e cycle and i would prefer him to do that, but if they guy want to do orals then let him. and yea i read his stats, he has a lot to grow natuaraly, but i dont blame him for wanting to be bigger the fastest way possible. i agree he has a lot to learn but dont flame him for wanting to know what to do, and asking questions.
ok so I exaggerated lol BUT I didnt mean he wont gain anything from Dbol only I was referring to the fact that doing dbol SOLO for 4 weeks might not result in what he wants after PCT. he might as well atleast run it 6-8 at a lower dose. but do you honestly feel safe recommending this guy does a cycle at 140? I mean I see guys on the boards tryna start at 150-160 but 140?! this guys diet, training and sleep is definitely not in order if he is at 140 and it will still suffer after he gets off cycle.
i advise it cause people are going to do what they do, i just want to give them the best explanation i can on what to do and how to do it. and yes i agree the diet, training, sleep, etc is off, but maybe being on cycle will push some motivation on him to get healthy and do it right, because he wont see shit without doing it right. ive seen alot of out of shape fuckers hop on gear for the 1st time and within years it transformed them and now they are healthy and cant beleive how they used to be. ya never know what people will do. but yea i think he outta do test 1st but i dont think its gonna happen.
I hated pins before I tried them, now I get excited and have to stop myself from pinning extras into my cycles.
If you are really unable to do it then you could get someone else to do it for you, my old supplier was happy to help :-)
There are loads of useful resources on the net with pictures and walkthroughs, thighs (quads) are a doddle solo.
if you want to stay away from the needles then do so, but most will tell you other wise, of course test is better and not as dangerous, but if your scared to inject then your scared to inject, but eventually you will go to the injectables lol, its the best way. anyways on to the cycle.
dbol- 30mgs per day for 4 weeks.
PCT- nolvadex and/or clomid, dont use otc products, they dont do shit.
nolvadex-60mg the 1st day, 40mgs per day for days 2-11, 20mgs for days 12-21.
and/or clomid- (how i run this) 300mgs 1st day, 150mgs days 2-11, 50mgs days 12-21.
pct starts the day after your last dbol tab. make sure you have the nolvadex on hand before starting your cycle, incase that gyno appears, it will just be a itchy lump underneath your nipple(if you didnt already know),nolva can eliminate this if it comes up. if you choose not to use the nolva for this, then it will get worse and you will need a strong AI, like letro to reverse it. so keep the nolva on hand.
of course test would be the best, but just remember to eat like hell, train hard as shit and sleep like a baby.
Basic beginner cycle is the following:
week 1-4 Dbol 30-40 mg ed
week 1-10 Test-e 500 mg ew
PCT 2 week after the last test-e shot.
You cannot avoid needles if you want a real cycle, and actually it's not that bad...
Man. I am new to this as well but read the board. If you don't care about shutting down your own Testosterone production then go ahead. A basic cycle would be Test E or Tesy Cyp only for 12 weeks maybe add D-Bol for 1st 4 weeks to kick start u until Test kicks in. The vets here will tell u, test should b run with pretty much all your cycles. I'm Into my 1st cycle and I hate to pin but it's not that bad. Its only once a week. Dbol will give u estrogenic side effects while u r shutting down your own Test production. People have done it and raved about the results but what ever growth u have will b lost after u stop. Especially in light of pretty much zero Test in your system to support it. I would think long and hard. But do as u wish. Let us know how it goes though.
AnonWhy you don't want needles? Taking just dbol is far more dangerous for you than pinning a moderate dose of test. If you run dbol dont go over 4 weeks for your first cycle but i wouldnt suggest it anyway. Get some test e and pin it for 12 weeks it is much easier than people think. Also your weight is appauling i am lean too but fck me 140 at 5'9 you are skeleton material. Eat more quit the cardio and once you get to a decent weight take roids right no the dbol only crap!
@DoWork by liver support do you mean LIV 52.. products like that? Can you purchase a good liver protection from gnc.. and i said i am a newb to this and i would highly appreciate it if you could get into specifics with me
Well, no one here is going to recommend an oral only cycle, but if you are dead set in running only orals, then Dbol would be a good one. Def need to run liver support while on
I was thinking of a dbol only cycle
30mg/day,split 3 doses/day,6 week dbol only cycle.
Would you guys recommend that? If i do it what else should i take with it milk thistle nola etc.. as i said i might consider needles and i still have a lot of research ahead of me but i am trying to get everyone's opinion
hey bro. im mad scientist with aas but i know a thing or two. If the fact you wanna stay away from needles is cuz ur scared of them.....ya gotta take the plunge sometime.lol....i had someone stick me all the time till i had no choice but to do it myself. I understand nervousness about it as do almost everyone else. man it took me 40 minutes to fuckin suck it up and do it. i even put it in my delt half way,got nervous as shit and pulled it back out. lol...then to be safe started over fom step one new needle etc...its really not that bad. Honestly you can even youtube it and watch it done instead of just reading. Now to the next thing. Im glad your not starting it now and plan on doing more reserach first. GOOD CHOICE. If you honestly do your research and talk to people im gonna say that 99% of people will recommend not doing dbol only for first cycle. Hell even a nice small 500mg a week of test e is a great beginner cycle. Regardless i think you should always run a test in your cycle. Now my next opinion.I feel that you really shold be safer about it and put your time in the gym first. At that height and weight if your in the gym your probably only doing cardio. You should really get your weight up first. EAT EAT EAT train hard sleep and repeat for a while. Its a healthier option and to get gains naturally and then go for the boost is better. If your gonna do a cycle now its only gonna help you get to where you could be on your own a little faster. Lots of vets will tell ya to put in your time. Now i mean no disrespect with the following but in my opinion i would wait at least 2 more years. get older first. and if your 24 then that make krabby 20....way to young to start aas...your body isnt really even done growing and doing its own thing yet. you guys got your whole life ahead of you and plenty of time. Why such a rush to mess with your still developing body. Im 30 and did my first cycle when i turned 29. I may get told im wrong with the age thing but its my opinion from the research and people i have talked to. good luck with whatever you decide but please be safe and do it right.
Nobody is going to recommend you a d-bol only cycle.
Nevertheless, if you do proper reseach, you will find some d-bol only logs.
Some say have made some progress, but I desagree.
Good luck, and try to get accustomed with needles.
Chemari.