Mild/moderate Cycle advice
So I am generally looking for input in this moving forward. I've been a part of two other AAS forums and lost my account information to one of them and they have closed their registration. I understand as a new user that sometimes there is a "hazing" that happens to try to induce safety protocols to avoid serious health risks.
I'm looking at this for a cycle after a horrible experience I'm dealing with. Normally I'd like to stay loyal to cruise times but this one time, I don't care. What I will do in the future is respect cruise times and understand that what I'm doing is the tip of the iceberg in the grand scheme of what else has been done dose wise. Here it is.
Week 1-20: 600mg mix from pharmacom.
270mg Test E
130mg Test Prop
130mg Deca
70mg NPP
Week 1-20: 200mg of Masteron E
Week 1-20: 500-750UI of HCG because that's just my preference to run it.
Week 1-4: 30mg of Dbol ED
Week 4-6: 10mg-15mg Dbol ED
Week 6-8: 5mg Dbol ED (could be overkill and flat out not necessary)
Pre workout: 10-15mg of Dbol one hour before for first 6 weeks.
Where the mix leaves me with only 200mg of nandrolone I was thinking of doing Monday - Thursday - Saturday. Where Saturday would only be .25ml leaving me with 300mg of total nandrolone and 500mg total of test. The issue here is that with the Masteron I am placing myself at 1,100mg of total gear a week. With the Dbol to front load. It pushes into a very moderate cycle that some could easily label as heavy. Injecting 3 times a week however can be beneficial where 200mg of my mix propionate.
Another curve ball.
I'll be using 2mg of HGH Monday - Friday when my kit arrives. The same kit will include one vial of test prop 100mg that I could use at my disposal. But where I'm heavily debating about throwing in Dbol. There has to be a line.
I am choosing to cruise at 300mg of test E after but would consider dropping down to 225mg of Test E (Monday 150mg Thursday 75mg) especially considering that now that I know where I'm getting my gear. I know for a fact it will be accurate and legit no questions asked.
I'm here to continue learning and am genuinely looking for input. I understand I'm new here. But I have done a fair amount of reading, asking plenty of questions on previous groups and of course watching resourceful instructional videos such as the AnabolicDoc. Who is more of harm reduction then gear advice.
- Bookmark
- 0
- 0
What you are thinking of running to me looks fine bud, although I don't see any details of the amounts you will be injecting on each day of the week. Don't concern yourself with the 'Overall' amount of gear per week that you are running, I don't know where this stupid approach came from in the first place. Concern yourself with the levels of each individual steroid you are using - thats how cycles are supposed to be formed. So you have basic levels for each compound that are thought of as Beginner level, Intermediate and Advanced. If you take Testosterone for example it has ALWAYS been that 500mg per week is entry level/beginner dose, 750mg is Intermediate and 1 gram plus is Advanced territory after a number of cycles. Your other compounds such as Deca are 200 to 400mg Beginner, 400 to 800mg/wk Intermediate and then beyond again is advanced. Obviously the more cycles you run the more compounds you will generally add into the mix to get the extra growth and protein anabolism you seek. Different strength compounds also require differing doses to be effective - many will run 800mg of Primo to get good results from it and at the opposite end run 300mg of Trenbolone.
Monday: 300mg mix, 100mg Mast E, 250UI HCG
Thursday: 300mg mix, 100mg Mast E, 250UI HCG
Saturday: 300mg mix
Monday - Friday: 2UI of HGH before bed
Adex will be avoided unless I see puffy nipples or acne forming. This time I'll get bloods six weeks in to monitor estrogen in particular. I don't want to crash it.
I mixed up my numbers which is my fault. This leaves me at a total of 600 test and 300 nandrolone. Three shots a week because there is propionate in the blend and I'd like to feel the kick of the propionate all week.
Alternatively I could do 150mg on Saturdays which is a small shot but if I'm doing it consistently, the decanoate should do it's job. I'm not opposed to 300mg shots three times a week but I just did some math wrong.
Thanks for the help.
Seems like your over complicating with all the esters.
It does for sure. The esters are all in a blend so I'd only be using two different vials during shot days. I kind of like the kick of propionate so this is up my alley. I get it though. Long acting esters are just more stable.
You could do the 500 test/300 Nand/200 Mast E and just not run the Dbol. The prop and NPP will come in fast, so no real need to kick start with an oral.
If you have to run the oral, save it for the end assuming bloodwork permits. Don’t start off the jump tanking biomarkers with an oral then riding that for 20 weeks.
Your cruise dose sounds too high. You only need to cruise that high if you’re holding on to substantial LBM above your natural limit.
What would you recommend for a cruise dose? 150mg -200mg of Test E? I enjoy 300mg mainly because I feel great on it. But you also only go up from there. Keep in mind I've run 300mg of Test E weekly for a year before. So I may have already begun some receptor resistance from before.
I'd assume for cruise you want to go by blood work? If that's the case wouldn't you want to cruise around 1200-1400 nanograms? It was told to me that you want to maintain supra levels of test on a cruise considering that's the whole point of using. But perhaps I need to update/research some more.
You won’t have other health markers in range in your CBC/CMP running supra levels 24/7. Not good for your long term health. Based on your stats you could easily get away with a normal TRT dose (100-140mg range). However, if bloodwork permits you could also do a dose that keeps you in the upper 1/3 of the ref range (800-1100ish).
Just remember you’re not trying to kill yourself over this stuff.
Bump
Anyone? I understand the disagreement in a previous post and that I was stubborn with my opinion but I am trying to practice AAS use respectfully
I understand I can jump on this cycle with Dbol and even throw some Test Prop in there. That it is not the right way to do things given the standard protocol. But that this also won't kill me in the grand scheme of things granted I continue standard protocol moving forward. Regardless I'd really appreciate some input.
Thanks to anyone who is willing to assist.
Moving forward. I'm here to continue learning.
Best