posted Tue, 05/16/2023 - 07:29
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Mild Bulking Cycle
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I'm looking to start a mild bulking cycle, something like 16-20 weeks.
Test E 250/wk
Primo 200/wk
TBol 50g/day for 5 weeks
Plus ancillaries should I need em.
Thoughts? Not sure if I should add or replace anything, or doses. Looking for noticable gains but not so much that the sides are gonna be 90% of the cycle.
Also, any reliable EU suppliers? Mine now only has amps :/
Thanks 
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Well this seems to have turned into a pissing contest...........Wait, this is NOT : "OFF TOPIC""
I would save the tbol and primo and put your test e at 500 mgs a week run that for 12 weeks. Pin on Monday and thrusday. Keep your 1st one simple. Concentrate on eating a gram and a 1/2 of protein per pound of bodyweight. Keep your carbs at cream of rice white rice potatoes and oatmeal. Keep your protein at lean ground beef and chicken tuna whey protein than work as hard as you can 5 days a week in the gym. You will be happy by week 7.
My first cycle i have using Sustanon 250mg.
Week 1 and 6 = 1ml
Week 2-3-4-5 = 2ml
25mcg Mesterolone (proviron) every days.
And i having good gain ----
Dianabol IS not good for first cycle.
I rather see test e or c only for first cycle, rather than sustanon. But I've seen way worse.
RustyhookerToo bad sust is proven to be eod pins and closer to 14weeks because long esters. Sust is advanced not by hormone but reaction and pinning
https://www.eroids.com/forums/general/general-talk/when-to-test-bloods
You mean 25mg proviron. And yes I agree this is a good example of what a first cycle should look like. 6 weeks?
Sust has short, medium and long ester so you will make gains somewhat faster than longer esters.
First few cycles no one should be using 2 or 3 different compounds at all, no exceptions
Bottom line, 3 different compounds for a first cycle is never a good idea. Doesn't matter if they are so called "mild" or not.
Dylan486648He ran 300mg of test prior.
Im wanting to bulk im 6’ 195 and would like any recommendations as to what i should start off with im also new to this so my knowledge is very limted appreciate any advice.
1 oatmeal meal
4 chicken meals
1 steak meal Everyday
No fish? O I see. Ya get enough fish from the ladies huh!!!??
You get all that from Walmart?
That’s a constipation recipe for me.
Start a new forum instead of hijacking this one.
Sorry bud like i said im new to this and i just figured that out but yes will do
No problem. You will get a better response with your own forum and it won't clog this one up.
200mg of Primo is a waste of your time and money
Dylan486648I disagree. Most old-school bodybuilders ran that and looked better than most here. 200mg of a pure dry tissue building anabolic along with 250mg of test and 50mg of tbol I believe would be a perfect recomp starter cycle for a guy at 5'6 with minimal androgen exposure. You don't believe he would look better after 20 weeks without side effects? I believe muscle is mostly built at the dinner table after hardcore intense training. But I guess I'm old-school. The primo alone would mostly be beneficial for raising free testosterone conversion making the low testosterone dosage more effective without side effects and it's ai benefits.
I think and would bet youd look the exact same as you
Did when you started on 200 mg primo
What did you say?
Man you know what im saying. Just like all these guys gona run 400-600 primo cycles from FREE PROMO. Not one isgona have an impressive picture to show us
So damn harsh lol. That damn Wanted!
Lifted-presence92Dude you look exactly the same since you’ve been a member yeah you a have a lean physique with good detail but no actual impressive amount of muscle mass has been gained in the 9 years you’ve been on here…..
Don’t know who you’re speaking on when you bring up the primo promo but I know what I’m doing.
You have 1 picture. Out of 1,000 in your phone thats your best pic. Laughable
Waste your promo primo. You pick the date fuck boy. Post em up
As this little muscle but ripped made me OVER 6,000 fucking dollars LOSER BOY
And FYI. your body will never look better than mine
Lifted-presence92Dude I’ve made more progress than you in two years you continue to look the same that’s why you’re so angry. .
You’ve been juicing for 9 me only 2 you’re right I’ll post a picture of me from 2 years ago when I got out of rehab.
Lifted im gona tell you this drigs have rotted your brain and think ability
You !!!! Your the guy who looks hood alone at home standing infront of the mirror
ME !!!! When i walk into the bar YOU hold
Your girl tighter cause you know shes looking AT ME.
I know damn well I hold my girl tighter when you are in the bar with us. I never trusted you! You can't have my ole lady...go get you own!
Send me a pic when you back into rehab
LOOK im going to the gym tomorrow. Take a pic Stop dreaming that your gona be something
Drop the steroids. You gave bigger drama in your life buddy. Post a recent pic
Lifted-presence92Lmfao dude you’re really mad I’ll post one tomorrow at the gym bigger drama? I was commenting back to you talking down on others you started this whole thing talking shit to others… never said I will or wanted to be somebody u actually brought up something about making money your insecurities are really showing man…
And shirtless
We already know what im gona look like
Lifted-presence92https://ibb.co/dg6LdN2
https://ibb.co/rkR4h72
First day outta rehab
3 months sober second pic
And that’s after a 10 year 7 treatment center run with heroin
You’ll down play it but as far as progress I’ve made leaps and bounds over you in your 9 years in my 2 years span.
You look exactly the same that’s 2 years of learning proper form a diet that works for me and supplements which ones that work for me..
Your gonna down play it but I’m in facts and your in your feelings.
Im not gona down play it nice job.. can you keep it and get BETTER do it for you and your family fuck it do it for me so you can havethe last laugh whatever it fuckkng takes to better yourself alittle
Competition I DONT RUN !!!!! You have me wrong
But please stop embarrassing yourself saying you will ever have a better body than me.
Lifted-presence92Lol you’re still mad bro no one said I did we have two completely different body types i sit at 245 on trt and you’re probably 180 A SKINNY GUY WITH ABS IS LIKE A FAT CHICK WITH TITS. I was saying as far as progression in time frame I surpass you let me go on a 9 year roll consistently working out and cycling and learning my body. These are facts bro. I would hope you had a better body than me juicing and dieting and working out for 9 years and being older than me acquiring muscle maturity.
Let’s just lay this to rest I’ll give u credit your in phenomenal shape but talking down on others is something I don’t agree man.
That only fact is YOU HAVE TO LIVE 9 more years. But yes lets quit this shit and better ourselves
@wanted I don't think this was meant as disrespect from either of you guys. I saw what both y'all were saying. I've seen both physiques and both are good
Dylan486648I think you look great for you age. That density and quality at your age is unheard of. But I disagree with putting others down for using safer compounds and less drugs.
I didnt mean to put them down. I just wanted to be honest in my opinion that it would suck after 16 weeks or more not to be happy with the results.
And i hear your route. But you will also have to give them the diet plan cause diet would have to be almost spot on everyday
Dylan486648Most of the people here abuse steroids and still don't have an impressive picture to show us. Which is worse?
Hahaha. This does apply to some I gotta admit! As far as Arnold using alot, I pretty much stated there were a few who used more. On top of that Arnold had the genetics too. But fact is most of those guys DID NOT USE ALOT. Fact
Dylan486648Yes they have the look I go for. They looked better than any of today's bodybuilders but that's just my opinion. Im currently running test mast and primo for 3 months and finishing with pharma winstrol. Goal is to be hard as nails and achieve the same look from that time. This will be my final cycle.
Guys do get pissed when dosages are brought up from that era. At one point I didn't believe what I was hearing myself. I still am somewhat confused but why would all those guys pretty much say the same thing. Some conspiracy? Lol nope just how it was. A vial of test 4 bucks, a bottle of tabs 3 bucks! Better times for sure.
Dylan486648I know a couple genetic freaks that build muscle on what most here would consider nothing. That's why I don't struggle to believe anymore. I do believe there is a common theme to downplay the doses so people don't assume they are built on drugs but I firmly believe the doses were much less then.
But the key is genetic freaks. That doesn't apply to everyone and yes some do down play dosages. An average genetic individual won't benefit much from low dosages such as 200mg primo or test.
Dylan486648I still believe someone new to steroids would build quality tissue with the stated cycle. I disagree with you on that point. But when I say genetic freak an old training partner of mine used to get gear from the same place locally. He would grab test cyp and eq. This guy was clueless when it came to bodybuilding. He would draw up 1.5cc of test cyp and 1.5cc of eq and pin 3cc in the quad once a week and be limping for days. But this guy was one of the biggest guy I've ever seen in person. Didn't count macros never used hgh all he did was train hard and this guy was 6'2 shredded 240 pounds when he was in juice. With veins everywhere in quads abs and arms. He was so big and lean on so little it was insulting. I honestly think that he had myostatin deficiency. I hear it's common with Italians. But after witnessing that I understand how much differently people respond to steroids just like any other drugs.
Yes the point that you are trying to make I've been saying that to these guys. I'm on record. Again I use lower dosages point blank. Nothing to bragg about as this works for me. We all are same but different to a certain degree. And not sure why you would disagree with me saying 200mg only of primo or test won't do much for a newbie. Now this cycle of course will be productive for a newbie but no newbie should be using 3 compounds in first few cycles period. So you missed that point, regardless if primo is in there, 3 compounds aren't necessary for a newbie.
Dylan486648You make a good point. I agree with that
RustyhookerAnd your picture? Push up tgat ifbb pro card.
Stupid shit is....arnold pushed vocally 1gram primo in his interviews as well as 'the bfast of champions' deca and dbol. He ate dbol like mnm's. Oh shut he also bragged on using high doses of tren? Say it isnt so!!!
You and your parrots...
Dylan486648I haven't seen a single report that said anything about the dosing of what Arnold used from his mouth. I'd love for you to share where you got this info from. Links? I'm not saying it isn't true but 99 percent of people here wouldn't look half as good on triple the amount. I stand my ground with lower doses. An ifbb pro card isn't impressive anymore to me. Most get more success with social media than a pro card these days. It wouldn't be wise to post a picture of myself in a forum that is a review site for illegal drugs. If they are ever legalized as they should be id gladly meet up with you and train with you and you could judge my physique in person.
RustyhookerAs i said already...just takin the piss. Dudes posted idea was trash and youre backsteppin