Masteron dosage with Sust/Tren combo?
I m 29, around 185, 16% BF and what I am looking to do this cycle is get to maybe 195 lean. I wouldn't mind hitting 200 either, actually. Haha. Anyways. I started my cycle with 1 ML Sust 250 EOD, ran that for 3 weeks to get a good start, and I am now starting Tren A 100 EOD. I also am starting Masteron E 200, but I keep reading so many different conflicting things about a good masteron dosage. I have heard it has to be 1:1 with your tren, but then I have also read that your Masteron dosage should be lower than your tren dosage. Anyone with experience with this specific cycle help me out? I absolutely love proviron, and I loved what I read about masteron and its pretty much liquid proviron, so I thought it couldn't hurt, right? My goal is to really harden up for the summer, I have really good definition in my muscles, and I've read so many great stories about masteron really giving you a good dry hard shape. Any advice is appreciated!
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RustyhookerI AM DOING THIS CYCLE
Not much to say. You'll be back.....
I noticed you're asking about pct in one of the discussion threads. Running cycles with tren, with no idea about doses for other compounds is stupid. Running cycles without proper pct knowledge is stupid. Ignoring help from members because it's not the type of help you want is stupid.
That's 3 strikes. Get your shit together or go somewhere else.
Edit: Just saw your pic. Smoking will hinder your gains.
ugh i know about the smoking ive cut wayyyyy down. I have everything i need for pct on hand but there is SO much conflicting information. Why does everyone keep saying i am not getting the answer i want? I have already made it clear what I will be using this cycle, I am fully aware of how bad of an idea everyone seems to think it is. I just want to know if the best results are 1:1 for tren and mast. I know i should use the same esters , but I wantee to be able to bail on the tren if sides got rough. I only ran 50 mg eod last time. It seems to really upset people that I am using tren for some reason. I really enjoyed proviron and a really experienced friend of mine swears by mast with every cycle. He is who told me 250 a week of masteron would be fine, but others swear it has to be 1:1. I just want some input.
Bro, unless you are genetically gifted lean bulks just don't yield shit. Who ever told you to run Tren A and Mast to gain 15 lbs of pure muscle is a moron. Your interpretation of the board's reaction to your question is a little bit skewed.
I don't know anybody who would run that cycle with the goals you have and probably practically no one else here does either. That's my guess anyways.
That stuff about mast being liquid provi is also off point. If there's anything I know a lot about in bodybuilding it's steroids. I got the nickname GearHead for a damn good reason.
You're running a bunch of mixed esters. Hint: that is a sucky idea in and of itself.
Test Tren and Mast shorts are often run 1:1:1 but, since that's not what you are doing (like a rip blend) it's hard to say. And again - we don't run rip blends or Test Tren Mast cycles in general to gain weight.
Can you? Well, shit, if you eat enough you can do anything.
And, finally, moreover, I and others don't like "announcements" in the fora. That's is posts that are along the lines of this is what I'm doing what do you think?
If you have been lurking around as you say, why not simply say "this is what I want to do what would you run?"
You will also find to your horror as well, that what Catalyst told you below is fact. You are not carrying a lot of muscle bro. Without that muscle, steroid gains will be short lived. But, maybe you're just so dang special that in your special case you don't have to do any work to build a base. There are always exceptions to everything. Maybe you're that exception? Who knows? You'll find out since you have announced to us what you are doing and you don't give a fuck what we think anyways.
BTW, I'm not participating in your neg party. I should but I will leave you alone.
Solid post brother +1
So putting on and keeping 10 pounds is unrealistic? And I wanted to run tren a because i could drop the dose if sides got bad, whereas if I was running a long ester there wouldnt be shit I could do about it for some time. Im not sure if thats true, but it made sense to me. And my neg party? Is that the number on my name? Why would that matter to me? I am not saying that to be a smartass i am genuinely curious as to what the numbers have to do with anything. Also, you said that masteron isnt like liquid proviron, but reading about both compounds they seem very similar and seem to have the same affect. I just loved how hard proviron made me, and it really ramped up my libido. I feel like I am getting a way better shape and tone and way more strength with sust this time compared to test cyp, and if masteron has any of the same affects that proviron did, I will look exactly the way I want soon.
Bro, best of luck to you, really. If you can put on 10 lbs. and keep it, that's great. If you think that drostanolone and mesterolone are similar enough in the effects that are important to you, that's fine. I have no reason to wish that you should fail in your goals. So, just see what happens.
I don't like your arrogant snot attitude bro, but, that does not mean I don't want you to be successful.
I pride my self on my arrogant, snot attitude.
I wasn't aware that snot could also be arrogant. You learn something new each day! ;-)
I already said I am doing this cycle, I was just asking about how many mgs of masteron, not a lecture about my first cycles or how much I weigh. So, again, what is a good dosage of masteron to run with tren?
Best advice I can give you:
Do it. Just fucking do it already, but fuck off and stop clogging up these forums. Your (admittedly dull) mind is already made up, so go for it and stop looking for a cosigner, you don't need one.
Here is what I dont understand about this forum, I've seen it time and time again. I am doing this cycle, apparently no one agree's that I should, but I am going too. And I am asking for advice on how many mg's of masteron I should do with it. Everyone says they are here to help, yet I can't even get an answer. Instead, I am lectured about my first and second and third cycle, which is said and done with, so what is the point in saying "OH BAD IDEA", when it's already over with, I am asking for people with experience with this stack to give me some feedback on what worked for them. I don't see the point in bitching at me and insulting my intelligence, when all I did was ask what worked for someone. You guys constantly do this to people new to these forums, I've been lurking here for a long time and just recently decided to register. People come in asking for advice on dosage, and you guys just tell them to eat more and to not do it, when they have already made it clear they are running the cycle.
So, again.
What is a good MG to run weekly with masteron E while running 350 mg of tren a.
The issue is I could answer your direct question but I could answer 100mg/ week. Up to a gram.... How would you know what's wrong or right or what's best or that I'm giving solid advice? Only way to know is to experiment. ...intelligently. Read around and research what others have done to accomplish your same goal and make an educated decision. Most of my knowledge about AAS comes from trial and error and seeing what works for ME. But research around to get a good idea about where to start... You're putting a lot of trust in people to give you advice that isn't really backed up by anything other than our own experiences. If your going to run this shit anyways and not listen to the other advice then just run it already and stop clogging up the forums.
You can't get an answer because you are asking a stupid question. Let me play along and see if you understand.
"Hey guys I want to shoot myself in the head, how many times should I do it?"
"Man you shouldn't do this"
"But bro I've already got the gun loaded and ready to go"
"You really shouldn't be doing this!!!"
"But bro I'm gonna do this shit no matter what you say, so tell me how many times."
"As many times as it takes for you to stop posting stupid ass shit. You won't get a cosigner here kid, go somewhere else. "
0 MG / week.
Hahaha
That -2 is from me for your piss poor attitude.
3 cycles to get where you are. You think that's a good yield?
I went to prison for 2 years. I hadn't touched juice or even a weight until a couple of months ago.
So doesn't this answer all your questions right here? You've done ridiculous cycles in the past- for arguments sake we will say they went well for you, by the looks of it...no, but just for arguments sake. Went to jail for 2 years and now you look the way you do. Don't you think it's a good time to put yourself in check and start over? Build a better more sub stainable base? Diet? Get your training for more than two months down? Those three things alone will yield better results than just aimlessly pinning yourself until you leak out the eyes just because you have it. Who cares what dosage your asking, the way you're going about it nothing's going to stick in the end so what's the point at all.
Start.over.
So build something resembling a base then fella. 2 months and you're diving into a cycle using the harshest steroid around. Then you complain because you're not get the answers you want.
Let's get real here. You're being impatient. Do you know what's going to happen? You'll gain a bit, then it will fall off of you as soon as you come off because you haven't built a base naturally and lack the nutritional experience to hold it. So next time you run ever more gear, etc etc. Same result. I've seen it many, many times as a bodybuilder, a coach and as a gym owner.
I'm sure you disagree. If you're intent on running it, fill your boots, but don't expect eroids to support you by answering your dose question just because you keep repeating it. The answer is you shouldn't be running it.
And this is your plan to get back going? It's a bad idea, but it sounds like you're keen on those. You can always stop and do something sensible, but....
I'm 4 weeks into the sust and just a week in on the tren/mast. I have got awesome gains off the sust, way most strength and endurance than where I was at with my first test cycle at this point. I've already loaded up with all the gear, I really don't see my self just setting it aside.
Sounds like this attitude has led you down the wrong path previously.
There are no shortcuts. Anything worthwhile is accomplished with hard decisions and hard work. Gear can always be saved for later. Oh well, good luck with this.
First cycle was test/deca, second was test/winny with a really low dose of tren and third cycle was sust and var
You're off to a bad start with your first two cycle: deca for your first and tren for your second!?! Not good. Your also very light. Stick to diet and building a solid natural base, especially at your age. If you ever get back on, stick to a test only cycle for a few runs.
ManimalKingStats
Age: 29
Height: 6'0
Weight: 185
BF: 16%
Cycle experience?