posted Thu, 05/01/2014 - 15:50
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Mast P with test E
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Hey guys I'm wanting to run a simple cutter late this summer. My cycle will be 14 weeks test e 750mg a week and I wanna run masteron for the first time. I've ran lots of orals and test also NPP and deca. Now it's time to try mast out. I'm curious as to everyone's experience with mast e and p and the pros cons to each. I wanna kickstart my test e with test p but was considering running mast p all cycle. Should I just run mast e instead? Will running the mast p for that long have any extra benefit wat so ever? Wat about kick starting mast e with mast p? Maybe just drop the test e and do a short blast with mast prop and test prop? Would love any feedback possible from the community and look forward to your guys thoughts, experience, and questions.
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RustyhookerAgree with doss. Mast is in my every cycle.
you could run the test e for 14 weeks, add in mast prop week 8, it will harden and condition your muscles, drop off any water bloat you may have, strength will go up, insane vascularity, and lower you estrogen before hitting pct, i use mast prop at the end of my cycles, its works nicely, sometimes you have to step outside the parrots cage and become the wolf, try it out for yourself, see if the mast works out, you may be suprised.
On paper Mast is a wonderful compound. I'm about a week out from starting my first run with it though so you should understand that before continuing to hear my two cents.
I would argue that Mast E would be the better choice for you right now simply because of your body fat. Don't get me wrong, I believe Mast will do you a great bit of good where you're currently sitting at 11%, but most would argue Mast works best at 10% or lower. Which makes sense theoretically but in all honesty, what's 1% body fat? One.. Maybe Two weeks worth of solid cardio and strict diet? ...remind me how long it takes for the Enanthate ester to start kicking in?
By several accounts on several boards Mast is essentially Mast no matter what the ester. In two weeks you will begin to see the drying out effects on Enanthate that you would on 3-7 days on the prop ester.
I should mention this comes from LITERALLY hours and hours and then some more hours of research on the compound.
Hope this helps! I'll be following to see what you decide on and to see your results!
IDK if the mast would do you much justice with your BF at 11%... IMO running test for 14 weeks, and being a long ester, you'll retain water, so it'll mask the effect of the mast. Mast is known to mirror the effects of AI's..being a DHT derivative based compound... but with a higher dosage of test, would render it ineffective in that matter.
AnonCOCO HERE YA GO THIS IS GOOD ON MAST
http://www.eroids.com/forum/steroids-qa/anabolic-steroids/masteron-enant...
Question was recently brought up. Here it is if you haven't read it some pretty good convos in it.
http://www.eroids.com/forum/steroids-qa/anabolic-steroids/masteron-enant...
thanks brotha I shoulda just posted it in there haha
Not really a cutter with a test dose that high. With masteron, tuned in diet and workout regimen, you will def harden up much better than without the mast. But you're gonna swell up more than cut. Mast and a test dose like that is more along the lines of a lean bulker.
Great feed back brotha. I'm really considering going with prop on test and mast just hate being a pin cushion. I'm definitely looking for a more hard look that's y I'm going with mast. This cycle is months away and still in the planning stages so I'm tweaking things on it. How low would u run test in Ur opinion?
Depends on the ester. For non trt guys, I like sticking to short blasts with short esters. 8 weeks. For trt guys, drop down to trt dose and add some short ester compounds for a short blast. Same concept, different approach.
Well I'm a none trt guy. I'm thinking Ur a short ester guy doss haha. I personally haven't ran a short ester cycle. I have ran short ester compounds for kickstarts. I'm thinking a mast test prop cycle would be a nice change from the norm. I'm thinking 50mg Ed mast prop and 75mg Ed test prop. 8 weeks
Bro,
There are so many posts on Mast in the forum archives that I think u need to read them first then return here with something more coherent. I just don't think a discussion of mast esters is a really substantive topic. That's the long and short of it, IMHO.
GearHead
I'll dig a little deeper brotha.
Bro, I'm probably being a little lazy, but to me, it just seems so many of the posts of late are questions that have been asked and answered and documented and archived so many many times before.
I'll make this point - with the right diet there isn't any steroid I can't cut on. Mast is a wonderful chemical, though - read some more about it.
So you can cut on Deca and Anadrol? You are right though. Diet will dictate your composition for sure, but I can't traditionally cut on substances like deca, especially when it makes my face fat and puffy.
No I agree eroids forum archives are loaded with vast amounts of wisdom. I've spent many a night reading thru them. We are humans genie pigs and thru "us" trying different methods doses lengths ester all aspects of cycling we have changed wat was the standard for cycling. I feel if the same questions aren't asked at different times then there is no need for the forums. Cycling would be cut and dry black and white which we both know isn't the case. I'm really looking forward to cutting on mast brotha and Ur not being lazy u took the time to reply good bad are indifferent that shows u are at least being active in the forums and I appreciate the feedback haha.