posted Thu, 12/01/2011 - 16:44
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lixus test E 600/week and T-bol cycle help.
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i have been researching t bol and have found alot of people like it. i have never taken T bol before. looking to use it for the first 4 weeks till the test kicks in. I have been reading alot of mixed reviews on the dose. i wanted to start at 30mg/day. alot of experienced users say to start at 60mg/day. what do you feel is a good starting dose?? i am 27 been training for 5 years. i weigh 175 and am 5'10'' i have a body fat % of about 20. Also some people say to just start at your dose some say to build your way up 10mg every week to your desired dose. Do you need to work your way up and down or can you just start at your desired dose and end it on the same dose? any help is appreciated.
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x whatever re getting the BF to 12-14 % ish FIRST. If you can't manage that (discipline wise) you're entirely wasting your time with drugs.
Work on your diet bro , drop the sugar in all meals , if you drink fruit juices drop it and get rid off dimple carbs ... Wait till bf is around 15 % to hit the cycle and try to eat a lot but clean
AnonThink about it like this bro...even IF you do run a cycle, with a proper diet, you won't see the results you want..Adjusting your diet is one of the hardest/most important part of life/AAS-im sure others will agree with this statement. I bet if you cleaned up your diet, continued to train, you would see results that looked like you just ran a cycle..seriously bro, do yourself the favor.
thanks alot for the advice. i definatly understand. i have been eating clean for 6 months now and i noticed a difference i feel like i have hit my personal peek. i also have a personal trainer and buddy who is going to specialy design my meals and work outs to the gear. i will be taking to him daily and weekly so he knows exactly how i am responding and we can make changes if needed. and i did my body fat with the callipers this morning and it was 13%. i definatly understand where you are coming from. for the past 2 years i have been dieting on and off and have messeds around with pro horomnes. i have noticed good results and have kept them. i figure i should use the "real stuff" since pros are probably worse for you. i have been researching all this stuff for the past year now. i am finally feeling more comfortable and confident in doing this. i appreciate the advice and i just want you to know i have been doing that. i have not been eating donuts and pizza all day. i know i am not the most experienced but im no dummy either
AnonWhats your diet like brother?
Im taking in about 2500 calories. Roughly 280g of protien about 180 g carbs a day and my fat is around 50g a day. I eat alot of chicken, ground turkey, lean meats, my carbs are whole grain rice corn tortillas oatmeal. Some fruits. I try to eat most my carbs after work outs. I ear about every 3 to 4 hours. Usually meals and switching it up with a protien shake. I agree with alot of you guys. I am working on my diet like crazy. Im working out 5 days a week and cardio 6 days a week. Im doing 30-45 minutes of cardio a day. I am busting my ass to get where i want i just seem to hit a wall. Thats why im deciding to go down the gear road. I want everyone to know i am takng this very seriously. I know it is No joke. I wanna thank everyone for the advice and tips
AnonHoly shit..I just realized my "new" title went away.. WOOOOOO!!!!
AnonAt this point, being on a strict diet and developing correct eating habits will bypass any gains that a steroid cycle will give you at the moment..Much higher BF% and you could run into some serious health issues while on gear.
Honestly brother you really should work on getting that body fat% down its way to high to be running steroids...Once you have done that then I would suggest as a first cycle to just run the test-e and save the T-bol for your second cycle. Learn how to dial your diet in so your bodyfat will stay down and you can grow properly!
As you didn't mention if this is your 1st or 5th cycle, I'll go with first cycle.
Why not use Test Prop EOD for a kicker and/or a finisher for the Test E, that way your only using Test (2 different esters).
Also, have your PCT & A.I. in your hand before starting.
it is my first. and i didnt think of that to be honest. i went with test e cause i only have to pin it 2 times a week. and i have arimidex on hand and nolva and clomid for PCT.
Well you could frontload with the Test E and if you decide you would like to finish with Prop as your waiting for the Test E to clear before starting your PCT's, that opion would still be available. You may find after a 10 weeks of twice a week, EOD is not so scary.