posted Mon, 04/28/2014 - 14:09
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Guys looking for some guidance. Im 6'0 275lbs 34 yrs old on my 8th week of a 750mg test e, 400mg tren, 600mg eq, 350mg anavar cycle. I dont know my body fat % but its up there as you can see in the pic. My arms without a pump are just under 18 inches solid.
Question are;
18 inch arms good for my size ?
Is my high body fat % making me feel like im not making gains psychologically?
Why do is feel like I should be much farther along at this point in the cycle ?
My 1 max rep is about 315 on the flat bench. Is that good? Bad? Sucks ass ?
To be honest my diet isn't calculated but in 8 weeks ive put on about 5 lbs.
Guys you can be brutally honest, im humble and looking for some help.
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So lets talk right, again running just test and feeling great. Im no longer a miserable, slothy bastard. Went to the gym today and killed it, felt great.
Funny thing is all the weeks I was taking the tren I never had night sweats until these last two night since being off I have woken up raging from some pretty intense dreams moist. Im not complaining, im all for some crazy ass dreams just found it funny that all this didn't start until I came off the tren.
Anyway, im off next week so ill have a chance to really screw down the diet and build a good foundation going in to the following week when im back at work.
If any of these updates start to get annoying let me know and ill keep it to myself.
Bottom line, im feeling good, lost a few pounds already this week which is no big deal and im fucking pumped to get ripped.
Savage
hello its great to hear you are not miserable anymore you sounded really down in some of your other replies now you have got a plan and renewed energy i look forward to your updates
Your guys feedback has definitely helped in renewing my focus. I was running a lot of gear without any sides other than being tired so I thought I was all good.
Glad to hear it bro! Sounds like you might be having some tren withdraw happening right now...... At least you're on the right track now!
So here is a quick update. Its been about 72 hours since my last tren ace injection and I feel a lot better.Energy is improving and the lethargy has subsided quite a bit. I was dragging ass at work every day while on it.
Dropped everything except the test. Going to run for two more weeks at 500 then follow standard pct.
Explored some forums on here and found a fairly simple meal plan promoting fat loss with lean muscle gains. Plan to begin some HIT training and shed this body fat.
Thanks again to all who spoke up and provided feedback. That was the first time I had ever asked for help and I was very impressed with the support and knowledge that I received.
Really good group of people here and Im happy to be a part of it.
Savage
I second and third everything said below. Good call and +1 for posting this, listening to advice and then making the right choice. Unfortunately, you're the exception to the rule...
When I have 10 people all telling me the same thing, id be an ass not to listen. You guys have been awesome.
Now that is some smart thinking! Good job and keep us updated with how things are working out.
Good stuff bro! You have the right attitude now. Make this your clean slate and take what you've learned and put it to use. You'll be happy as hell if you take the right approach and do things right. Again... Good choice bro +1
Do yourself a huge fair bro. Get off the cycle and go through PCT. Get bloods taken and find out where your at and cut some weight. I could've used this information myself and I wasted a lot of time and money. If you're not disciplined enough to cut the fat down to well below 20% then you're probably not going to be disciplined enough to run a correct cycle and train properly. Take that time to train hard get the body fat down and educate yourself on all aspects of cycling. You'll be a better man for it.
Guys ill ask the same question as I did in my other post, I gotta ask....so dont shoot me, am I better off doing a cruise, low dose like 200mg. While getting my diet in check rather than coming off and doing pct ?
absolutely not. doing so you will most certainly set your fate for TRT. Your body has been shut down and needs to recover.
Thanks Roid
After 8 weeks on that cycle you would think you would be far advanced, yet your max rep is 315 and you have zero definition to your muscle all over. Take a step back my friend and research a diet plan, stick to it. We know you are hoping to be big fast or at least muscular within a short time but it will never happen if you dont assemble the entire puzzle. Take the advice below to heart because you just found out no amount of gear will fix bad diet, training, or discipline.
Your right. Seems as though i have not only pissed away good money but I have waisted a lot of reps in the gym. Thanks for the feedback.
Nothing is a waste, you gained valuable knowledge out of it so when you get back on the horse you can ride the shit out of it.
Haha...thanks man. I plan to do so but in style next time
Just dont give up. It takes time and dedication. It took me a year to drop 60 pounds and Im still at 18% BF. I sound like a broken record when I say this but this is a marathon not a race. Get back in there and go the distance, ask us questions, research.
bro looking at your pic, your Body fat gots to be over 30%. You really should put all your eggs into cardio and diet. cycling with high body fat is unhealthy. Have you been monitoring your blood pressure?
I check it ever few weeks and in have been in range. From the advice I received here today I am going to cut out everything but a small dose of test if I dont shut it down all together and diet my ass off and set a goal for body fat % before I even think of cycling again.
personally I dont think that you should base the success of a cycle on weight gain but rather on BF% loss.
Bro,
I don't even know where to begin. You got me. Impressive. Doesn't happen too often.
First and foremost, you gotta stop the Tren. Eight weeks is enough bro. Is it Tren A (acetate) or Tren E (enanthate)? Even seasoned steroid vets avoid long Tren cycles and you ain't no seasoned vet.
You are polluting your body. You're running 2,100 mg of gear / wk. Keep it up and you are gonna put yourself in the hospital.
In looking at that pic - it's hard to judge bro, but you don't seem to have a thick muscle base. This is always a problem and is always a reason steroids don't live up to expectations.
BUT, BRO, YOUR DIET ISN'T CALCULATED???? WTF??? Steroids work off of the food we eat. DIET IS EVERYTHING!!! If you don't know how to eat, the chemicals will do NOTHING. 5 lbs. of weight gain in 8 weeks on that stack is PATHETIC!!! PATHETIC!!!! IT SUCKS.
315 bench for a 34 year old (that age is peak strength years for a man) weighing 270 lbs. YEAH, it sucks ass big time. Did that answer your question?
If your body fat is 15% you are not a pile of blubber. Thank God for that. It could be worse.
You also need to drop the EQ. Now. There is NO SENSE in taking this out beyond 12 weeks and the EQ doesn't even stabilize in the blood till 8-9 weeks so it's doing nothing for ya. You know what, if u have been taking 50 mg of var a day since day 1, u have had enough of that too. So now were just going to finish with the Test for 4 weeks or if you really want the best advice - stop that also NOW.
If you stop now or if you run just Test for 4 more weeks you will need only two weeks off before starting your PCT.
But, if you are super smart - you'll get some blood work done NOW bro. Yeah, stare at those numbers. You should post the blood test so we can all stare at the numbers. I can't imagine. I'm not gonna go further into that here.
In the end, even though you have behaved like a knucklehead on this cycle, we are here to support you and make sure going forward that you don't risk your health using steroids. I know I've been hard on you, but I hope at least I got your attention. You can friend request me if you want so we can exchange email.
With your health and success in mind,
GearHead
Thanks guys, ive obviously have this all wrong and I sincerely appreciate the feedback and trust me when I tell you your advice is not falling on deaf ears.
Bro, one thing you can count on is that we all look out for each other on this website. You're not going to learn more or get better advice from bros that actually give a shit what you do, than here. Nowhere else.
You need to hop off cycle ASAP and jump on PCT.
your cycle sucks ass.
Talk to me bro, whats wrong with it ?
your running 750 of test with 400 of tren for a start, then you put in 600 of eq, you need to get your diet and nutrition on point aswell as your training, that is an advanced cycle, your running tren, the most potent steroid available, with a high dose of test, you said be brutally honest, you don't look like your even on cycle, you should be way more advanced and further ahead with your physique before running this shit, im not trying too offend you mate, just telling you how it is.
No offense taken my friend. I feel the same about my results and I know im missing something very important. Would you suggest I drop the eq or the tren ?
your obviously not eating properly, that's a shit load of gear, you need to feed it, I mean seriously, that cycle is potent, your either not training good enough, or your not eating, why did you choose that cycle? how long you been on it? whats your cycle history? I don't like the tren test ratio, also ancillaries? and whats for pct?
I train 3 days a week, 1 day on 1 day off. Taking in roughly 3000-3500 calories a day. I chose the cycle after reading this http://www.steroid.com/tren-cycle.php
Ive been on the cycle for 8 weeks, decided to add the anavar to help with weight loss.
Ive done 4 cycles on the past 1 other with tren.
I am taking .25 adex daily as well.
Basic Clomid Nolvadex pct
you could have other issues going on, when did you start the adex? also you haven't mentioned caber or anything, adding in extra compounds willy nilly because you feel your other compounds aren't working isn't good either, you have made a mistake for sure, if you had been on here and asked advice before starting you would be good rite now, for you I would off advised just a low dose of test, im talking like 300mgs a week, then we would of set you out a nice diet. I think you should quit the tren and eq now, lower your test dose to 400 a week for 3 more weeks then wait two weeks and hit pct, get bloods done after last pin, see if you have other issues, then adjust pct as needed, if that means running it for 6 weeks so be it, if that means you need caber so be it etc etc, check your blood pressure etc etc. learn and move on.
Started adex about 2 weeks ago. I have letro on hand just incase but haven't used it. Ive never used cabergoline.
Ive been tired as shit though I can tell you that. Check BP ever now and again and I am in range.
I will definitely look to you guys for advice once i get this mess ironed out and move on.
Tren lowers your T3 and can for a time give you all the classic symptoms of hypothyroidism. Tren can make u so tired u can't even get out of bed. You will want to check your thyroid function on your blood test. I must take T3 when I use tren or I can't get through a workout after so many weeks.
Thats good information I did not know. Ive had a couple tren cycles in the past that made me lethargic.
How true that is. You could say that to half of these posts.