Is mt Stack making me Tired?
Fellas...Stack Info:
Test Prop EOD 100ml
Winny Tabs 50 md ED
Proviron 50 mg ED
T3 50 MG Ed
I started on this Monday. I was tired as shit the last couple days which i am really not used to when on cycle.
Took out the T3 and that didnt help with the sleeplyness. Test always stays as my base period. So i am thinking that its the Winny. This is the first time i have taken it. I was thinking that maybe its just i am getting tired after lunch, but today i waited to eat lunch and took my winny and Test Prop shot at noon. Now i am getting that very tired feeling. I am eating clean so its not that i am loading up with a high carb/sugar lunch......
I am also taking a variety of vitamins and minerals to combat the joint pain which i feel none.
Any advice as to what this can be? I dont want to drop the winny and have some ephedrine i can take to get some energy back but i honestly dont like stims that much.
Thoughts?
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T3 is taken in mcg not mg. (5 - 50 mcg on the very high end). Yeah, Winny can cause fatigue (not a common side effect). Resist the temptation to increase T3 to combat on your own. Check E2 as suggested below. And, as long as you are doing bloods, get a thyroid profile. You never know what u may find. My thyroid was shot and I take T3 (Cytomel) as a script. If the Winny is zapping u in the gym, drop it. I'd add Mast per below as well. It's gentle on the system and a better alternative to running var at 100 mg / day. I never heard of Mast fatigue!
Sounds like low estrogen levels. I've found a lot of my buddies and myself included felt very tired when taking AAS that weren't easily aromatized into estrogen (winny, EQ) or were taking high doses of anti estrogen. After a couple of weeks of using your body starts to balance everything out. Weeks 4-8 of EQ, my buddy and I were exhausted every day, needed cat naps to make it through. Around week 9, we started feeling better because our test:estrogen ratio seem to balance out Better.
Estrogen is needed for joint health and proper sleep cycles. I would recommend dropping the winny for now until you're further into your cycle. Winny has a suppressive effect on estrogen levels. Wait til week 6 when your body has started to reach some equilibrium then add the winny. PM if you have any questions
RustyhookerBloods buddy. Just the thyroid garbage alone can ruin your system permanently. Then there's estradiol. Any red meat in your regimine?? Cutting with no red meat crashes me hard. Iron...
What you taking for an AI if any? And have you had blood work done?
Not tcurrently taking any AI's. I have not had my bloodwork done prior to this cycle. I just started on this Monday. I usually get bloodwork the first day i start administering my PCT and then 1 month after tkeep things in check. I had a lipid panel done lst time as well so will probably do the same this time as well.
Any thoughts on what it could be?
Anything would be a guess without blood work. I would say get rid of the t3, I am personally against thyroid manipulation.
I am assuming this is a cutting cycle? If so you could drop the winny and still cut with a good diet. I am not trying to push another compound on you but have you looked into Masteron? You could drop the oral and add Mast P. You could also drop everything other than Test P and Proviron and get results.
Also get some blood work done. Check your estro levels and thyroid. Thyroid should bounce back quick. And if you do not have an AI on hand get some Arimidex or Aromasin, research dosing protocols.
RustyhookerFirst symptom of low estro?
Provi blocking estro?
Are you asking me or the OP?
Symptoms definintely match possible low E2 but with the OP only being on for 5 days I would think it very hard for the provi to have dropped estro so hard since it doesn't affect it directly but merely occupies estrogen enzymes. Though at the end of the day bloods are key here.
T3? Why is that in there? What experience do you have with this. Not something to be trifled with.
I have actually incorporated it in the past for a month. No more than 50 mcg a day and really didnt get tired at all.
I didnt take the T3 yesterday thinking that could have been it but was still tired.
Hopefully you know enough not to be quitting the T3 cold turkey. You need to step down the dose gradually or you will really be putting your endocrine system into chaos.
Thyroid manipulation is not to be played with. I just don't see that this is necessary at all for you. Drop the winny as well. You could just be experiencing a little "test flu" since you've only been at it for a few days. See how you feel next week.
STATS:
33 yrs
186-190 i fluctuate somewhat
6 0"
6th cycle
I was lucky to have a great friend that was very knowledgeable about AAS and did the proper PCT with every cycle
4 Test E only Cycles 16 Weeks
1 Test E and Eq Cycle
1 Test E and Anavar
Sups: Wheat Grass, Multi-V, Glucosamine, Flax, Fish Oil, CLA, Vit-C, MSM, Liquid V-D
Better get them stats and previous history up before the big dogs come!
Just posted my stats...ive been in the game a while so its not that i am a newbie....i am wondering if anyone has any advice on how to combat the sleeplyness. I get 8 hours of sleep a night, eat clean, take a day off when i feel like i am over training, etc....
Just never felt like this from anything ive ever taken so any advice is much appreciated.
Nah man, I wasn't implying you were it's just been stressed A LOT here lately.
Oh no worries bro i didnt take it the wrong way....any advice on what you might think it is? Could it be stress on the Liver from the Winny?