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Intermediate AS user seeking Advanced AS user Advice

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I am going to cycle again, and I will be using Deca Durabolin 300 and Sust 300. I am debating how long of a cycle to do. I will be dosing 450mg/wk each. 900mg/wk total. I am wondering what will be best use of the above gear. 10-12-16 week cycle. I will be using Arimidex during the entire cycle. My PCT will consist of 500ui HCG a day for 10 days, then starting Clomid for 5 weeks. I know all Bout the "deca dick" side effects, spare me the jokes :-). That being said... what are your thoughts?
My Stats are as follows:
164lb
5'11"
Solid physic, not sure actual %body fat, but I know it can't be too high... I have a more ectomorphic body style.

Diet: Rice, Chicken, black beans, egg whites, fruits & vegetables, lots of water, protein shakes 2 times daily and post workout supplement with protein and carbs.

Please forgive spelling errors.

strongman480's picture

http://www.eroids.com/forum/steroids-qa/steroid-cycles/how-to-run-a-cycle all i can say is if you had indeed did research you would not be asking these questions. if you did research on here then you would know the correct ratios for test and deca, and also that you need an A.I. and that nolvadex is very important in you pct. also this is not an advanced cycle. if you can come back and prove you have done your homework I'm sure everyone here will help with your cycle,but you need more research. sorry if i'm coming off as an asshole but it is what it is.

Carlos Danger's picture

So how old are u? Point blank u keep avoiding the question. Which makes me think ur really young cuz otherwise u would have no problem answering the question without hesitation. Ur coming off like ur fishing for what u want to hear.

HOW OLD ARE U?

Gerbil's picture

He said 28 in a reply to Irish. Everyone who buys gear before nailing down what cycle they are going to do is fishing for what they want to hear.

klaydo68's picture

Sounds like you have a lot of natural gains still to be made bro that being said if you insist on these compounds you Need more test imo i always run test / deca at a 2:1 ratio and you should probably use nolvadex and clomid cuz of the amount of shutdown you get from a nor-19 just mu .02

Catalyst's picture

With your current stats you should be looking at your diet. 5-11" and 12 stone indicates you aren't eating the way you would need to in order to bulk, especially after running previous cycles.

When you've got your diet in order, go back to bascis and a simple Test cycle done correctly with a correct PCT.

MASSIVE48's picture

Well IMO bro 5'11 and 164lbs is not that much of a solid physique..your not that old you can reach at least the 190-200lb mark still with out gear or at least with just a simple 12 week test E cycle instead of jumping on deca..fix your diet and you will see the difference.... Also i think you gotta do a lil more research like they are saying down there bro cuz your PCT is off... Good luck

ASOlympiaStudent's picture

I looked at your post... certainly a lot of great information. I will spend a sufficient amount of time reading thru... Question... considering I already purchased my gear... do you have any recommendations on how to best utilize it providing the best bang for my buck?

kodiakGRRL's picture

I d like to know why you chose sust? in addition to the rest of questions.. such as age and history . ..

ASOlympiaStudent's picture

I chose dust because of the 4 different esters of test, and it leaves a consistent test levels in the blood... and deca from my research stacks well with sust... that or winstrol, but I understand winstrol to require multiple doses a week to maintain consistent levels in the blood.

kodiakGRRL's picture

its only consistent if you are consistent with your pins and timing .. I much prefer to see people use it as a supplement to test and or as trt cruise.. deca stacks well with test period.. tried and true bulking stack there.

ASOlympiaStudent's picture

Just to make sure I am reading your reply correctly: Sust is consistent if my pins and timing are correct...? And you prefer to see people use DECA as a supplement to test? Or am I not reading that correctly?
Also I know it sounds dumb, however I am not familiar with a lot of jargon, and the best way to find out is to ask... when you say pins... I assume you are referencing the administration of the product being discussed? Do you have any reference material for recommended timing?
Respectfully,
ASOlympia"Student" - I won't know unless I ask.

kodiakGRRL's picture

with the different esters in sust timing is EVERYthing in maintaining stability on cycle.. I don't care for it as your main source of test... I prefer sust to be the supplement and or used for cruising not as the cycle mainstay.. long estered test and deca is a tried and true stack, a foundation that for bulking is near perfect as you can get. ..

ASOlympiaStudent's picture

I see... that makes sense... given the phenylpropionate, propionate, and acetate, metabolize rather quick and only stay in the system max 72 hours.... the sust I got has 5 different esters vs the 4 you see in most... leaving only 180 mg composed of deconate and cypionate ester... I didn't start reading on the time that it takes to get metabolized... until after I ordered... hmm... I will know better for the next cycle... any timing suggestions for the gear that I have... to make it most effective?

Roid Noid's picture

cycle history?

ASOlympiaStudent's picture

I cycled once when I was 19 when you could walk across the border... 2 10 week cycles one of t250 and another of t400 and sust250. Although I was ignorant back then... and then a couple of years ago a 10 week cycle of T400... I used nolva for Pct... still wasn't to wise on the matter.