How should i get to my goals?
Current Stats: 28yr old, 6', 205lbs, 13%BF.
Goal Stats: 205-210, 8%BF
So a 17lb muscle gain...
Currently on PCT
Next cycle tentative plan...
To Bulk for 12 weeks of
1-8 Sustanon 250mg M/W/F
1-11 NPP 140mg M/W/F
9-12 Prop Taper
13-16 PCT of Clomid and Nolva
HCG 500iu 2x EW
Aromasin 25mg ED, or 25mg EOD, or 12mg ED (will depend on my reaction)
Caber 0.5mg e3d
---3-4 months off---
Then to Cut for 8 weeks of
1-8 Tren 100mg ED
1-8 Mast P 50mg ED
1-8 Test P 30mg ED
Aromasin on hand if needed
1-9 Caber 0.5mg e3d
9-12 PCT same as above
1-9 HCG 500iu EW
How does that tentative plan look?
OR should i do B.u.F blend (100mg tren a, 100mg nandrolone base, 50mg test pp), and if so which does it lend itself to more... bulking or cutting?I was thinking of using it to cut with instead of my mast tren test combo above... Thoughts?
This will be my 5th cycle I have used tren, npp, EQ, test, mast, var, winny, adrol, and tbol in all sorts of combinations and I am not a newbie just spouting off some advanced cycles... So please constructive criticism only.
Diet will go as follows:
During Bulk cycle I will be eating around 3700 Calories, 300g protein, 400g carbs, and 100g fats
During the cut I will be dropping to 2400 Calories, 250g protein, 150g carbs, and 45g fats. (i left some extra space to include things like more fats or more carbs depending on my workout.)
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cycle is bunk, after 5 cycles you should have it laid out better, you forgot the kitchen sink, scrap and re do, better options than this.
No ideas? It does me no good to scrap a bunk one of I don't even have suggestions about what u should run next.
why not run just the one cycle longer, with the rite compounds, i see no point in doing a bulk then a cut, its not going to work the way your thinking, i would run long esters for a lean bulk and taper off with a certain compound to finish.
you say you ran tren, deca, eq etc so you got history, diet will depict goals, you ever done test, deca, eq cycle before?
I have not done that cycle. I have done an eq test cycle but I have avoided deca due to its lingering effects as far as shutdown is concerned.
yet you have tren and npp listed.
have you already got possesion of the compounds?
Deca is not tren or npp. Yes I have everything.
lmao thank for the info, i wasnt aware that deca is not tren or npp, you should be a chemist or a brain surgeon, amazing info.
How does a guy who is 6' tall bulk with 3700 calories? My GF just bulked on 3500 calories and she is 5'6 and a woman over 40! You are a man who is in his 20's!!
I do not see 17 lbs of muscle gain in your future with that amount of food....unless your trying to gain an once of muscle a month for the next 15 years.
More drugs here than food here. @ 200 lbs you may need this to put on 20 lbs http://www.themuscleprogram.com/meal-plans/5000-calorie-meal-plan/
Nice link fella...plus one
Thanks. It helped me tremendously when I hit 200 and needed a wake up call to what needed to be done to achieve the next step. Muscles don't appear magically without octane (food).
Thanks for the link
Really... In def open to il eating what is necessary.
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Sorry. Typo. I said I am willing to eat what is necessary. 5000 I feel would be too dirty of a bulk. I think I will start at 4k and adjust as necessary.
A bulk is a bulk...
I would keep your calories at 3000 and let the cardio and tren strip the fat. Eat good complex carbs with tren. It helps burn fat
Ya tren is a carb whore... I just hate sweating like a whore in church
then dont go to church
Don't see anything in here about your diet
Which is the only thing that's going to get you what you want.
Edited above.
That will help
Good job
I'm open to thought out suggestions... If you are able to help me please do...
I feel a simple tren cycle would get you to drop 5% bodyfat and maintain 205 if you keep cardio and diet in check
I actaully tend to agree with you, I'm thinking about just running a cut cycle like the one above for 10 weeks. I should be able to put on 10lbs of LBM and drop 5% BF if i keep my diet in check...
So you're going to do 2 cycles back to back?
yes but with a 3-4 month break between them... I should have made that more clear. corrected
Personally I would cut before I bulk and make sure your bulk isn't dirty. Keep it simple and focus on diet. No need for all those compounds.
Edited I didn't see the bottom