Hey guys can you help me and review my cycle i would like to run starting march for summer cut
Hey so i have a few cycles on my belt, Have a great deal of knowledge in Diet/Training as always I'm keen to learn new things and advicses from people that have to offer and critics..
I recently turned 23..
Training about 3 years
Im at about 205lbs..
BF% have not measured but i am quite lean have semi visible upper 4pack
My goal is to get ripped cut with abs, with some decent size
And my cycle that i want to run is by
KALPa Pharma
Cutaxyl 150
Has
50mg- Test Prop
50mg- Tren Ace
50mg- Masteron Prop
I would run this at 2ml EOD.. for about 12weeks cycle..
Thinking of what to add either anavar or winstrol tabs.. For that dry look
Also for fat burners adding Clen Pct i have in check already for after
If i could get any feedback of rights and wrongs on how i should approach it with the most results would be great thanks again..
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You don't want to hear this but all you need is diet and training. Just because you have started too young doesn't mean you need to keep making the same mistake. Use your 'knowledge of diet and training' to achieve your goals.
Dude seriously! You are only 23 brother you probably have more test and gh in yourself then most of us on a mild to medium cycle. If you begin running a cycle now you will just shorten your true potential. Just keep a good diet exercise and natural supplements for now. You wont need gear until your atleast 28 maybe 30 unless you really dont care about the long term affects of running gear at an early age. At 23 I was solid and felt great, didn't need gear till 34 when joints, test levels and gh levels began to drop dramatically.
If you dont want to listen to reason then I suggest only running test mast or primo at most as a stack. Mast and primo are safe and test you always have to run. What ever you do, do not run tren and your age. Even myself I have a hard time with it 4 weeks in and its miserable almost psychotic.
Lets just say what needs to be said. No gear is required! Diet and training at 'just turned 23'. Good advise above.
Anon+2 for stepping up
AnonWk 1-16 test e 600 mg
Wk 1-12 eq 600 mg
Wk 12-16 eq 800mg will kick a lil harder and some more mass at end
Wk 11-16 anavar 80 mg
Aromasin if needed
This is one of my favorite lean mass cycles.... ive had real nice results with this
Pct will start
Wk 18..... clomid and nolvadex
SimplyShredded1FR send bro.
Don't agree with you on this one mate. He's just turned 23 and you have a 3 compound stack? Not on board here at all. The guy needs to train his ass off and diet 24/7 365 days a year for the gains he wants. He is looking for a short cut and will be pleased that you have offered up a cycle.
Anonyep hes young but most young dont listen.... he definitely dont need to run the cycle he proposed
SimplyShredded1I understand your concern for safety reasons etc.. but I'm pretty dedicated and i have done a cycle of test and a stack of test prop and tren ace before.. i really don't understand the big issue with tren i understand the side effects where strong but nothing that a person can't handle iMO.. have done my blood tests and everything is normal do proper PCT just looking for advise on a next cycle I'm not a noob either..
UPnSMOKEWhy are u starting PCT after only two weeks? Isn't eq have a half life of 14 days or so. That means only half the eq is gone after 14 days. He doesn't want to start PCT with EQ in his system. He'll waste his pct meds while the eq is still working in his blood. He needs 4 wks off from the eq thats why most guys run the eq shorter by two weeks than their test. That's basic stuff Mr cycle!
Anonyep i slipped on that a little i know this...test 2 weeks longer than eq... i know.... i think i gave that advice at like 5 am....gimmy a break
AnonNo no..... no tren right now bro.... you aint ready... i got a cycle for you that will get you lean mass and new veins will pop you never seen..... send me f.r.
Mr.cycle
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If you create a cycle, i will review it...
UPnSMOKE23
205
U really going to review his shit? A 23yr old on tren? Fuck me!!! Smh how about doing an intervention instead of reviewing his shit?!?!
Definitely not.
Stats and cycle history were asked to see if this user was on TRT since he had no mention of PCT compounds.
AnonI hope he aint at 23
SimplyShredded1okay i will get back to you tomorrow with all the info
Thanks.
UPnSMOKESo pretty much ur going to make some stuff up? Ur 23! How many cycles have u really done by 23? Do not consider running tren. Whatever u do Tren is not a smart choice for a 23yr old. Trust me. Most guys @23 are not mature enough at all for Tren. Plus it shows lack of patience and most of those guys who have done tren at ur age have already proven they are incapable of listening to reason. Don't be that guy please. I wouldnt recommend using gear at all. Period! If u are stubborn use a test only cycle. But again ur body isn't even fully developed man. Give it some more time to fully maximize ur natty potential by eating right Nd training hard. Stay away from AAS.
Good points, +1.
No chance of anyone here cosigning tren for a 23yr old.
AnonNope.... hes in good hands with me.... his goals will be met safely
UPnSMOKEHe's 23! Wow so do u even have an age limit? I seriously don't fucking get u! There's nothing u can do that diet and training shouldn't do for a 23 yr old. IMO ur being extremely reckless.
Anoni dont wanna give advice to anybody under 26... but what do they do they cycle any damn way... i have seen it.... they listen to some dumb ass and end up worse off
chill
Where has he said that he is going to advise tren?
UPnSMOKEThe fact that anyone would be so cavalier about writing up an intermediate cycle to a 23 ur old is pathetic. Is that what the high level members here do? Write cycles for under developed physical specimens? This is the advice that should be given to this kid:
http://www.eroids.com/forum/general/general-talk/first-cycle-plan-for-un....
Anonhey smokey my point is the guy already been using steroids so ..... if not then it would be different
Anonyou need to calm your ass down
UPnSMOKEMan I need to stop meeting you like this. :-( I didn't know who you were and since I posted this and did some more reading I see you are well respected.
Just to give some background I'm stuck on TRT. Mistakes/Injuries got the best of me. I am to my own demise at times a hard liner when it comes to young guys running gear. Sorry man but its just who I am. Unfortunately there is nothing anyone can say to change my opinions.
But I should also do a much better job of using the right words to make that argument. I'm new here and my manners obviously need some fine tuning. I'm having a hard time fitting in here and its becoming very clear to me that I may not fit in here with everyone telling me I'm rude. Sorry man
Anonyour alright man jus relax but....sounds like we been down the same road....only reason i considered giving a young guy advice is because 1 he has already used supposedly three times and i offered an alternative to tren (at like 5am)....2 they dont listen when you tell them there too young and take advice from someone who dont give a shit that there young and fuck there self up.... thats my whole point...... stick around fucker ill take you under my wing .... but next time ill pop you in the mouth lol ;-)
but yes hes a lil bit too young i agree with your veiws but i want you to understand where im coming from too
UPnSMOKEI agree with you. Maybe just take the tone down a notch or two.
UPnSMOKEDidn lt realize we weren't allowed to disagree and even call people out. Kumbaya from here on out.
Read above, I agree with you. Call out whoever you like my friend. The way you wrote your opinion was a little abrasive and attacking towards a member who puts a lot of work in round here. But, like I said, in my opinion you are right. Hope we see more of you on here mate.
UPnSMOKEI can respect that. Didn't mean to offend anyone. I just don't bend my morals and am used to standing my ground on what I feel is right. Sorry if I upset anyone.
He hasn't mentioned tren. Read it again, I think it's been interpreted that way.
I think The point upnsmoke is making is that he disagrees with monster giving cycle advice to a 23 year, which I understand where he's coming from.
I've never pulled any punches about this, I don't give cycle advice to this age group. Appears some may have a different opinion unless there's some sort of misunderstanding here.
I have no idea where I got the tren from? My bad