posted Tue, 10/15/2013 - 22:42
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Hey guys, quick question so my first time running EQ I'm doing test cyp at 800mg ew and eq 600ew my sex drive was really good up until just finishing with week 5 of eq this week! And it feels that my desire to want sex is decreasing or just don't feel like having sex, a week prior to this I was horny all the time.. I am also running 60mg of tbol daily, can anyone shed some review if eq can suppress sex
Drive allot cuz I did some research but it's
Mixed reviews some say hell yea and some
Say no, a buddy of mine said he lost his sex drive so I'm guessing it's true :'(
Thanks again I need my pornstar boners back lolol
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SimplyShredded1Well started arimidex EOD .25 starting to feel really good, my sex drive is still good but I can't get hard ons as I usually do so eq deff messes with it because same sides accrued with my buddies
first of all i think your running your test way to high. you should of lowered the test to 400/wk and had the eq at 600-750 to really let eq shine. Eq doesn't really have suppressive properties it could because you are running too high of your test
EQ can be suppressive,,,one reason we always combine some additional
testosterone.
Anonlol
RustyhookerI get anxiety when estro is high. Doss is correct below. Get that ai pumping!!
Sounds to me like performance anxiety. Stop stressing out and you will get your libido back. I had a few "scares" on Deca and it turned out it was my brain that was the problem. Plus banging every day for 3 months sometime 3 times a day will suck the libido out of you I dont care who you are lol. If your on cycle and having lots of sex you could be setting yourself up for failure at the 1st sign of limp dick. Clear your mind completely and you'll be straight.
BigBmajI have been very anxious these days. I feel great in every other way, except some major anxiety. I couldn't figure out where it was coming from until I thought - maybe it's the EQ. Anyone else ever experience this?
I've dropped it for now, I'll be curious to see what happens.
As far as sex drive goes I would guess it's estrogen. Sometimes overtraining can slow my sex drive down a tad as well. Get some blood work.
Yes. I had major anxiety from EQ. Dropped it, felt better. Back on, more creepy, panic attack like feelings. Decided to see if it would eventually go away - it did around week 6.
BigBmajThanks man. I am really surprised how bad the anxiety it. I absolutely couldn't not calm down even with deep breathing. I did feel on the verge of a panic attack all day long.
I love it for the appetite but I think I can accomplish that with a very small dose. Once this anxiety clears I'm going to experiment with 125 mg a week. People may think that's way too small but there is only one way to find out.
tren seems to amplify the anxiety. i ran a stack of 900 eq along 700 tren and got the one and only panic attack in my life. i watched a documentary about ways the world could end any day, with exploding stars, gamma rays, meteors and so on. well, when got something to drink later that day, it hit me like a kick in the nuts. i was not aware about the anxiety, and the potential amplification due to the tren.
tren solo is fine, no probs.
will try eq with deca starting november.
i also was pretty depressed during the time i ran both, but mostly because of shit happening in my life, might have been worsned by the stack though. but made me look tight nevertheless ;)
Lol this made me die laughing. Not because anxiety or panic attacks are funny - I'm struggling with it bad myself with EQ up around 900mg a week - but because the mechanism that triggered your problem came from a documentary about the world ending haha
Sounds like an estro issue. Are you running an AI?
Could be dht related as well. Any issues busting a nut or going to the bathroom?
Muta's right tho. Best way to diagnose and treat an issue like this is to run bloodwork
SimplyShredded1I do have arimidex on hand I'm not running it yet was thinking .25 EOD but I agree on the anxiety attack I feel weird on it now out of no where get angry and annoyed fast, no problems going to the bathroom or busting a but like I still get horny but boners are as hard as before it's my first time with eq so I have no idea what to expect beside appetite
And vascularity it's deff there
I'm just curious, so I hope this doesn't come off the wrong way but how did you make lvl 1 and miss the concept of an AI - concept of not using it as needed I mean.
Sounds to me to be estro related bro. AI needed to start week 2-3. Do a quick reference on high estro in men. You'll see a lot of your symptoms match up. Including BP. Eq can cause BP issues but not until blood count increases to a certain point. You're not quite there yet. Start that AI bro
The opposite with these are symptoms of inflamed prostate, which is usually the result of dht.
SimplyShredded1Yeah i noticed it as well, because i asked a few weeks back about the same problem, never really was knowledge on how important AI was.. so i have 1mg tabs should i start with .25 EOD?
Thanks
For now, yes. Then drop back to e3 days when every thing is restored to normal.
SimplyShredded1Okay should I keep the dosage the same for now? Even for later when I do every 3rd day .25? Thanks again
why not add masteron at 300 mg/week ? always makes me horny, also polishes your look, binds to shbg which means more free test and reduces aromatase. dont know if estro is a problem, a lot of guys report the lack of sexual desire, but no problems with erections.
the problem with eq is also, that it seems to reduced gaba levels in your brain, which leads to anxiety in some people. found this on another site, unfortunately the guy who quoted this, did not name the original source:
"Anxiety is felt to be related to GABA-ergic transmission in the brain. For some time, it has been known that some steroids, particularly boldenone (eq) and stanazolol (winny), affect GABA receptors in the brain. GABA is considered predominantly inhibitory, i.e. a "chiller". EQ can strip the brain of its natural chillers, GABA, creating waves of panic as you experience and describe so eloquently. Some people are born without sufficient GABA-ergic transmission, predisposing them to panic attacks such as you experienced, but in the absence of any externally administered drug. If you external stress overrides your GABA-ergic transmission, you will panic. So some only develop panic after a traumatic event. You probably had sufficient GABA-ergic transmssion for everyday life, but you were closer to that critical line than you thought, so when EQ stripped your GABA, you were pushed over that edge into panic. Some people are very far from that edge, so they can take a gram or two of EQ, strip their receptors, and still have no problems. Treatment options include benzos (which directly enhance GABA-ergic transmission, but have terrible tolerance and addiction potential and are NOT recommended), antidepressants (which by influencing serotonin and norepinephrine can enhance GABA-ergic transmission or simply screen more external stress through their mechanisms), and lastly DON"T DO EQ. This last one is simplest and best of course."
maybe this could be the reason for low sex drive aswell.
or just get a hotter girlfriend
Masteron is not a substitute for an AI. It has some anti estro properties, but so does every dht derivative. Never recommend adding a compound to to correct something an ancillary will. And never recommend one without knowing more about the op. -2. Tighten up playa
yes, recommending an ai without knowing if estro is even the problem is way better. lets just take cancerdrugs, they are sideeffect free.
low estrogen is bad for libido aswell, but im sure you are aware of that.
I'm very aware of several things. Including the medicinal uses for AIs, their effects, the interactions of AAS compounds in the body, as well as the situation at hand with the OP. Had you read more of this thread and had a better understanding of the aromatization process, you'd see the relationship and need for the AI.
Did you know that masteron has not only undergone clinical trials for cancer treatments, and has been approved as a treatment method for certain types of cancer? Still think masteron and increased dht levels is better than an AI?? Come on man
yes i do.
dht compounds tend to increase sexual desire in most users, myself included, which actually is the OPs problem. it has mild anti-e properties aswell, which might be beneficial. 0,25 mg adex e3 days isnt an very agressive dose either.
im just sharing my experience, never needed an ai, mast did the job for me. ran up to 2,5g of test, but had genotropin in the mix. mast also adds good benefits to most cycles, even at a lower dose. gives you a nice look when lean, helps with strength.
to each his own, but one of my favourites. of course it should not be run year round for your prostates sake. but i see no problems to run it in cycles.
at 300 mg neither his prostate is going to explode nor will he lose his hair over night.
I'm not disagreeing with those statements. I actually love mast. But like most things, it has it's place. How long have you been around Eroids ?
sorry for bitching around before, was angry i got downrated.
i registered about 2 years ago, but im not a big poster. never was. startet b/c 4 years ago, made my experiences and i am still reading a lot about this topic (hormones).
originally i wanted to show, that there could be other problems than estro related. steroids are quite well researched how they act on the body, for example how they act in muscle or fat tissue, but alot of steroids also have an impact on the brain. test, for alpha male behaviour, dbol for wellbeing, tren for feeling invulnerable, eq for anxiety. these reactions are mainly individual, but i didnt find any reliable research other than personal experiences of several users. but there is definately a trend for feelings on certain compounds.
also alot of eq users report low sex drive, but not neccisarily problems with their erections, while high estro seems to lower the quality of your erection to a point, where you cant get it up. fortunately i had no problems so far. i also do not get an alpha male feeling from test, but i did get depressive feelings on tren/eq stacked, which now make sense to me.
winstrol effect on Gaba/sex drive could be countered by itself being a dht compound, which increases sex drive.
this is all very theoritical an speculative, but im sure other hormones than test and estro have an impact on our brains, reactions might be highly indiviual, as everything else regarding feelings/hormones etc.
agreed with muta. but please tell me your running ancillaries? ai etc???
Anonwithout bloods this is about as easy to give you an answer for saying "my dick feels weird, whats wrong?"
you're fucking with your hormones bro, it could be 1 of 1000 things
SPEND $60 AND GET BLOODS DONE! won't hurt to see your hemo levels on the EQ either!!
silverback89where do you go for 60$ blood work ?? costs me alot
privatemdlabs.com , female hormone panel.
Time to do your own research I think.
Holy Shit, that's cheaper then my Doctor's blood work with my insurance! Thanks for the link!