posted Fri, 01/25/2013 - 09:40
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Gain muscle and drop fat w/ injectable and oral... need help
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I'm wondering if you guys could help me out on building my next cycle. I'm 5'10, 162, with 14% body fat. just finished up a cycle of test enanthate and d-bol. Gained 12 pounds and a lot of strength, couldn't be happier with my results and the amazing products from hulk body.
On this cycle I'd like to gain lean muscle with possibly dropping some body fat. I'm thinking of doing hulk blend 300mg and an oral. Any suggestions or experiences with the hulk blend?? 100MG Testosterone Propionate, 100MG of Trenbolone Acetate, and 100MG of Masteron Propionater per ML. No idea on how often to pin it and what would be a good oral to go with it. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks
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Thanks for all the great advice. I hadn't done my research on tren or masteron before putting up this post. Thats why I went ahead and posted it to hear opinions on it. Now I have the proper info, from you guys and research... letting me know to stay away from it.
To reply to a little of everybody's input. The only reason why I want to change my cycle is to not have as much water retention. I'm trying to gain lean muscle mass. Not bulk way up adding mass amounts of fat and muscle and then try to cut the fat off. I'd like to drop from the body fat percentage range that I'm in, while adding lean muscle. Which is not impossible because I've already accomplished that during my last cycle. Even with being on d-bol. I just got a lot more overall puffier look, including a really chubby full round face. Which I would like to eliminate in this upcoming cycle. In which after research I think the t-bol is what I am lookin for.
I appreciate ALL of the input.
I don't see any cycle logs or anything about how your last cycle was? I gotta ask.. Did you use an AI like exemstane or adex.. Did you run PCT after.. I ask because you said your face bloated which is a clear sign of excess estro.. granted even with a AI dbol will bloat you but testosterone alone really shouldnt if your AI is in check
23 and trying tren? My advice is take it slow I am sure I can't convince you that you are to young so I will give you sound advice. Stick with "safer compounds" at your age. Tren can fuck you up for life and that includes low T by 30 and not being able to have kids.Take it slow, slow and steady wins this race, you don't want to blow your load right out of the gate. For your next cycle try test with Tbol, Tbol promotes solid lean gains with minimal water retention. As for dropping body fat, diet and cardio will do that for you.
Yeah like you I don't think he should be on any of it but if hes gonna do it better to do less harsh stuff than tren
I've read what you said about your illness, but I'm still going to say you're too young to be running gear and tren shouldn't even be in your vocabulary. Steroids won't change the fact you're not eating enough, and certainly not enough protein irrespective of your body's ability to process nutrients.
You haven't been specific about your illness. Have you told your doctor you have run steroids to make these improvements? Depending on what it is you have I believe you should be taking medical advice ONLY. Nobody should be giving you cycle advise other than a doctor IF he/she feels that is appropriate.
X2 but I gave him advice because once they get a taste it is usually over trying to convince them to stop. I gave him a "safer alternative"
Absolutely, I also get the impression mind is made up and if he's going to do it better to do it right. Slightly concerned we don't know what we're dealing with here.
I agree with OmNom stay away from tren. AND deca........ EQ with test e will make you so hungry you will want to eat all the time and that is what you need to get big...IMO you need about 5000 calories a day or more.. HEALTHY FOOD = WEIGHT GAIN..
Yup eat like your trying to be a fat ass.. you can shed it all off come spring and show off dem gains.. I try to get in 200grams of protein at the very least.. bulking even more
1jakd_hipyYou're 5'10" there's no reason you can't hit 200lbs naturally. Post your training program and ill help with that, I'm sure I can get dossier to help with your diet
NO NO NO your 23 do not go near tren or deca NO NO!
Frankly your a bit young to be taking anything and it doesn't sound like you have a strong base at 162 5'10.. you should be able to hit 180 easily with just food and lifts.. If you HAVE to cycle just stick with testosterone.. You WILL be on early trt if you take tren or nandro at your age
And what was your routines?.. just curious because of your name.. I wouldn't touch p90x if I was trying to gain weight.. Heavy lifts and fooood lots of it.. and yeah you would have to pin that blend every day and it will hurt like hell
Forgot to mention that I did P90X about a year ago. After it got me motivated and the energy I needed, I switched to a mass gaining routine like the one posted in my other reply for six months with very little results. Only gained about 2-3 pounds. Thats when I started the three month cycle of test e and d-bol... gaining the 12 pounds and the motivation for more.
For my routine I train in the 5 rep range.. dropset some weeks to a 30 rep range to blow up the pump.. I'll have a week every now and then where I overload for a new max for 1-2 reps.. and when I come back to my old weight the next week it always feels lighter..
To make a very long story short, I have a disease that makes it very hard for me to gain weight, my body has a hard time breaking nutrients down. I've never been over 150 in my life. I've always drank ensure plus, scandi-shakes, and many more weight gaining supplements recommended by my doctors to help gain weight, with no success. P90X changed my life for the better, gave me the energy and drive to live a healthier lifestyle. Now that I'm eating healthier and do nothing but living for the gym. My goals of being healthier have been met and now my goals have switched to finally having muscle mass... and lots of it!
My routine- Most exercises end in the 8-12 rep range
Monday- Chest and tri's.
Tuesday- Back and bi's
Wednesday- Cardio
Thursday- Shoulders and Forearms
Friday- Legs
Saturday- Cardio
Sunday- Stretch and Rest
Ab Ripper X is thrown in three times a week, days depend on energy level
My diet is strong. My goal is 3,800 calories a day and 160 grams of protein. I normally get in around 3,000-3,500 calories. Most of the time more toward the 3,000 range. And around 140-160 grams of protein.
I am very committed and couldn't be happier with my results so far. I'm on my way to not being the skinny kid anymore! My doctors are very happy with the weight gain as well, considering they've been trying to put weight on me for years with no success.
Yeah not bashing p90x just more of a cutter imo.. But it's great it helped you.. tbh I sat down a few days ago and ate 4k calories in one sitting.. If you really wanna bulk big eat big.. I have a tough time gaining weight myself. But in all seriousness do not touch any 19nors like tren or deca for now... If I were you i'd push the diet up a bit for bulking, you can always eat more.. especially if your cycling.. something like eq will make you hungry as hell with way less sides as tren