posted Mon, 04/09/2012 - 19:54
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First time with Prop need a stack and how long to cycle
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6'3
215lbs
15% body fat
ecdomorph
Learned of T-Prop.
Need opinions with what I should stack with T-prop for best results in obtaining lean hard muscle, how long to cycle it, and how many Mg's a week.
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AnonI'm coming to an end of my first cycle ever @ age 34. I did test e for 11 weeks (2 pins a week). Along with TNE pre workout 50 mg started about week 4 to week 11 (about to 4-5 pins a week). Now I'm finishing up with test prop 100 mg eod weeks 12-14 (about 3-4 pins a week). Prob used 50 needles this cycle and didn't have any problem alternating six different injection sites. Some injections had more pip than others but definitely bearable. I seen more pip with test e than anything had pip on week really bad from test e but that was it. I think i injected to low on my quad and irritated something.
AnonPrior to starting your injections I assume you were already under going your daily routines as far as weight lifting and nutrition? What went through your mind when you knew that the Gorilla blood had started its take over through your bodies system. Was there any experience with side effects?
Common side effects are high blood pressure, body gets a little hotter, sex drive increases, pimples and bacne appear, oily skin, increased endurance, muscle pumps are easier to achieve and stay longer, fat girls start looking sexier and the thought of cheating on your girl becomes overwhelming!
AnonI read up on side effects for general information, thanks for the additional info.
I just was wondering how it was working for him personally.
Thanks though.
Give them a vote if you find it helpful.PermalinksgtstedankoHow old are you? Sigh... Stats! Age, previous cycles, years training, yada, yada, yada...
Anon28, no previous cycles done, been training off and on for 5 years now. Will be training and continuing to do maintenance for long term.
sgtstedankoIf you've never cycled. Imho, prop ain't for you, brother. You should go w/your basic test c or e cycle for 12 weeks. To get your sites dialed in 1st. Research the sticky'd post in the forum. Make sure your diet is on dial. I'm not saying it can't be done, just my opinion. Feel free to pm me.
AnonFaster resultstestosterone propionate bottle
Most people who use testosterone propionate report that they see results as soon as four days from the first time they take it. The faster results delivered by this steroid are due to the fact that it contains more steroid and less ester. Testosterone propionate has the shortest ester among all testosterone steroids. This is significant since a shorter ester means more steroid is available for the body to absorb.
Less side effects
A lot of people who have tried different types of testosterone steroids claim that testosterone propionate has the least side-effects. The period it takes for it to clear away from the body once the user stops using it is also generally shorter than with the other testosterone steroids. Aside from having the least side-effects, it also results to less bloating as observed by its users.
lol. You are right but you dont run prop as a first cycle because you have to pin eod and it hurts more that longer estered test. You dont know if you will be able to cope with it.
1)Do what the man says
2)Sort your diet out
3)Have adex on hand incase of too much bloat.
AnonThe difference between a successful person and others is Not a lack of strength, Not a lack of knowledge, But rather a lack of will. Keep it simple, cause chaos, create space & do the damage! Execute! Only you can determine your own success. Ultimately, you are responsible for succeeding or failing.
tread-mMakes a beautiful hallmark card brother but lets get back to reality. Knowledge is the difference between success and failure in this game. The most important piece of that is kitchen knowledge. You learn what you need in the kitchen and you have won 90% of the battle. Its year round, not on cycle, not when you fell like it, not when grammies not in town and you're eating out 3 times a day, not when the fair is here and you want 6 of those footlong corndogs and something they call 5 lbs of deepfried icecream wrapped in goodness with goodness sauce and goodness sprinkles, year round. Yes we cheat on occassion but cheats are rare if you want success. If you insist on prop first and you read your hallmark card everyday for some motivation the roll 150 eod prop for 8 weeks. Aromasin on hand and pct ready for 2-4 days after your last pin. I always tell newbs to have enanthate on hand in case the hallmark card can't stop the apple size swelling on your delt or won't help you walk to your car to get to work. If so you can start your longt ester. The reason the prop acts quicker is the fact that its already having an impact on free test levels in 6 hrs not because of its strength when compared to long version. Yes, a tad strong mg for mg but that can be overcome with more test E when compared to prop. I love prop, I live on prop, I am the prop master and I'm your prop Daddy so I don't need a tutorial but I still say roll long ester first. If not roll the cycle I laid out and get it done in the kitchen and you achieve. The kitchen and gym work has to emain constant afte the cycle or its all for nothing. You cant maintain something after cycle with less in tbhose areas than it took you to get there. The change is constant with the work or the change goes away. Keep us posted brother and update your progress we love success stories and enjoy helping when its not falling into that category.
AnonThank you Prop-Guru. Your post has been printed and is currently stuck to the refrigerator. My nutrition intake is consistently clean and in check.
(Automatic redial)
It is my lifestyle now, since I have been blessed to run the business from home, It's only Dad running things.Your incite is greatly appreciated. Being that I am very new to Gear. I'll tell you what my goals is.
I'm looking to be a lean, hard, chizzled 220. What would be your suggestions for me in obtaining this goal? What should I use? In what does should it be administered? How long should I cycle it? I have read plenty of Combonations and gotten lots of information from younger user but have not spoke with an experienced user.
I will continue to do cardio 30-45 minutes after workouts EOD.
Give them a vote if you find it helpful.Permalinktread-mI think you begin to use your compounds test first and work your way to it. We can help you along as you get the feel for test and want to move to say test/var or test/tbol or test/eq etc etc later in future cycles. There is nothing on planet earth that works like carb manipulation on the body so a "clean diet" is important but as you learn how to make a diet do incredible things to you the compounds become super powered. They work better than natty already but if you see what carb manipulation with proper protein does then add the compounds its unbelievable. So I think roll your test and we work on your diet tweaks. If you do insist on prop first, I'll answer a question from above as to what do you sor feel first. You will feel prop in under 24 hrs. Sex drive should increase very quickly and then pumps will increase in the gym within a couple days, pumps will last longer and then soon you find yourself staying pumped more, more vascularity, faster metabolic rate, fat burns quicker etc etc. Seriously do have some enanthate on hand. Some people such as a cousin of mine just can't handle prop at all, sweels to the size of a half apple on pop site literally. Many get crippled from the pip in glute hits or can't move their arm from delt hits etc. Its not horrible for most but pjp from prop is very real for most and it takes time to accustom the body to gear. As time goes on it gets better such as I can't feel a pin , don't feel the juice, no pip, no stiff , no nothing, ever. This is another reason a long ester is recommended first. Breaks in vergin muscle and accustoms the muscles to test with less pins and usually less pip. That can help make the prop pip less when you do finally run prop. I'm all in either way just trying to help. If you can handle the pinning and the pip from prop then good for you. PM if you need more.
AnonI'm gonna slow my roll and take your advice, switch to your lane and get my Virgin receptors Dialed in just as Sgtstedanko and yourself have suggested. I'll utilize the The T-Enanthate first when I get ready to start sailing. Im feeling, that I should start T-enanthate around fall season. Forgot the fact that summer is coming into play now.
After Viewing member pictures and constant reading through the forumns, I'd rather chizzle up and get ripped down, then stack lean muscle as we progress through spring and summer then into the future later for bulking up so then can cycle my seasons correctly.
Clean Diet + Weights + High reps + Daily Cardio = "TADA!" Come here bitch! I'm Sexy and I know it!
Fall/Winter the bulking season. Will use The Ethanate. I'll continued to learn the Blueprints till then.
sgtstedankoDo you think the swelling would go down a little, if I rub goodness sauce w/goodness sprinkles on my delt (which started throbbing in a no homo way after I read that, by the way) sigh... I like my hallmark card. I live by it... It's not saying that the knowledge isn't important. Just that most men don't have the will to obtain the knowledge they need beforehand, to get shit dialed in 1st. So they seek fast results, lose most of their gains, get depressed & off themselves over it or some shit ;'(
tread-mHow right you are brother! We see it everyday, yeah I love my card too keep it in my wallet, it say " you are special , you are bigger than everyone else and you you have mighty oak...Amen". Oh wait, thats my prayer list for myself, I'll find it later here for you.
sgtstedankoI've heard that someplace before : )
how many cycles have you done?
Anon0 cycles done..