posted Sun, 01/08/2012 - 16:31
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first "real" cycle
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I've decided i'm going to run a real first cycle and dive into the injectables. my beginner cycle looks like this
500mg/wk Test E(pinning 240mg twice/wk) wks1-10
50mg/wk D-bol (25mg twice daily) wk1-4
nolvadex 200mg/day wk 11
" " 100mg/day wk 12
" " 50mg/day wk13-14
I know this is real generic and basic, what I'm wondering is if the nolva will be enough of an anti-estrogen?
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tread-mYou ran dbol before without water as shown below but not with test. I still would push you to back up now since I don't call a pill cycle a cycle and run test. Thiis allows you to learn the test and its effect on you and then you come back later and stack. You said you are only concerned with looks and not strength. Tbol over dbol for looks all day long unless bloated is the look you are referring to? Lol
X2 i would prefer he ran test alone but something tells me he aint having it.
lol ain't having it?? I'd kick the d-bol off the list, I'm not hell bent on it, just liked it.. What PCT for a test only cycle then?
This is what my pct allways looks like.
Nolva:40/40/20/20
Clomid:50/50/50/50
Pct will very depending on who you ask. There are those who only run nolva.
run them both together weeks 11-14 as shown amounts?
Since you are running test e you want to start 14 days after your last pin. Yes i run them together.
I appreciate the posts, wife trying to talk me out of pinning altogether but not going to leave me about it
No problem just do yourself a favor and research as much as you can before you take the plung bro. Remember our health and wellness should always be a priority brother.
been researching well over 8 months, been ready and broke for a while so waiting to remedy that before taking the plunge
not looking for bloat lol, didn't really experience that effect on my trial run with it though.
No bloat with d-bol?
no, i did 40mg/day wife thought it made me look leaner actually
How about we start with some stats.
34 6'0" 205lbs working out since I was 14, very educated in nutrition and keep a good diet,always gain strength easier that size and cut, which is why I'm going to run a cycle. I'm strictly concerned with looks not strength.
Ok cool, i would just run the test without the d-bol. This is usually the best and safest first cycle. This way you will now exactly how your body will react to test, which will be your base for any feature cycles you may run. If you run them both and you do see some sides you wont now which compound is causing them. Its all about getting to now how your body reacts to diffrent compounds.
I ran d-bol only to experiment before and really liked it)mild acne, not much water retention) and everything I read seemed to point to it as a good way of kick starting a long-ester cycle.
Ok so you have some exp with it. You should get some adex to have on hand, play it safe. You dont want to get into a situation where you are developing gyno and all you have is nolva.
yea, unfortunately the source I chose only carries nolva and clomid as far as PCT, I really just wanted to do a one stop shopping trip so to speak.
Better to be safe then sorry bro, dont rush into any cycles.