first cycle(dbol only)in detail
About myself, I am 22, 5'7, and 160lb about 12% body fat. I have been training in and out for the last three years, but not until 9 months ago have I been training consistently with a very clean diet.
I have always had a small frame (ecto) and has made it difficult for me to gain weight. Prior to the 160lb 9 months ago I was 133lb. I was small and had around 8% body fat I was toned and had a six pack and I liked it lol.
but after thinking about it I didn’t want to be skinny and have a six pack I wanted to be big and have the six pack, so I started going to the gym every three days and worked out all body parts (mon:chest&back)(wed:biceps,tri&back)(fri:legs&bback)(tue,thur:light cardio) I changed my routine every 4 weeks to keep my body from hitting a platue and had a very strict diet of clean foods(no sugar, fast foods, chips, junk food ect.) all lean protein, low sugar carbs most of the times and tons of veggies and fruits. I didn’t take any supplements or protein powders. After the 9 months I went from 133lb 8% body fat to 160 12%body fat.
so far everything has worked out really well and have seen great results, but I am now considering my first cycle, I know many of you will say that if I have seen really good natural results why don’t I just keep it that way, I understand that, but I have thought about it really well, have done lots of research and have learned a lot and continue to learn. Also, I have my mind set for it.
The cycle I want to do is dbol only (lots of negative disagreements).I understand I will get comments such as “it’s a waste of time" " you are going to lose gains right after"" don’t be a pussy and inject”, and so on.
Well I will specify why I want to and how I will do the cycle down to detail.
There have been many newbie’s wanting to try a dbol only cycle and this cycle has been brought down by others and tell them to do a test cycle instead. Now I am not scared of needles and have no problem doing a test cycle, but I feel that I can most likely gain lean mass with this cycle.
I have seen countless forum posts of a newbie trying this cycle because they don’t want to inject and to them this seems like a simple cycle. There is nothing simple about any cycle there are many factors you have to keep in mind if you want to see results (nutrition, rest, workout routine, pct) many newbie’s think that if they pop this pill and work out they will grow. They might but as many say it will be water and they don’t have proper pct or any pct they will end up worse.
My point with this is that I want to prove many wrong that any dbol only can bring gains if done properly and that this cycle is not a waste of time as many think.
I will be documenting everything I do and will keep my log up to date I have seem other logs where they update it until the very end before they end their cycle and they stopped the log(most don’t finish it properly)
The cycle: 6wks
Wk1:20mg(lixus dbol)/milkthisle/tons of water.
Wk2:30mg/ milkthisle/omega3
Wk3: 30mg/ milkthisle/omega3
Wk4: 30mg/ milkthisle/omega3
Wk5: 30mg/ milkthisle/omega3
Wk6: 30mg/ milkthisle/omega3
I will be taking 10mg every 4-5 hrs first one starting at 7am.
I also have nolva and arimadex on hand to prevent gyno and keep estrogen/bloat at bay to keep water retention to a minimum/average.
Nutrition intake: I will be eating 3200 clean calories that will come from lean meats, low sugar carbs, and healthy fats. There will be no cheat day of cheat foods. Very low intake of salts to prevent excess bloat. i will up the calories as i gain weight.
Rest: I will sleep on average of 8hrs a day
Workout routine: I will work out every day hitting 1 main muscle group every day5 days a week for the 6 weeks. I will do light cardio for 20 min everyday to keep BP lower.
Mon: legs&calves
Tue: chest
Wen: arms
Thur: back
Fri: shoulders
3-5 sets @ 5-8 reps each.
One thing I have not seen are blood test for this cycle since many think it is a simple cycle and that it probably is not necessary, but as I have said before I want to do as much as I can right.
I will be getting blood test before and after pct. To see if I have recovered. And what the differences in levels are going to be.
PCT: I will be taking arimadex (AI) during the cycle at .25mg to prevent some water retention but not all.
I understand that clomid has some side effects that some people seem not to like. Every person is different so this will be a test to see what my body reacts to these SERM’s
Nolva: 20/20/20/20
Clomid :50/50/50/50
also before and after pictures and measurements.
I know this is a lot , but I have looked for a very long time and have not seen any dbol logs as this one I am going to attempt.
I think that this will be a good indicator of what will work for me and other people if a dbol cycle is done right and carefully.
I will be starting this cycle after I complete my blood test next week.
*I am not advocating that a Dbol only cycle is the first cycle that you should do or that it is the right way to go.
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h23arwell i just want to thank all of you for the great advice. i wanted to mention that after careful thinking and lots of more reading that i have done on this site, i am going to postpone this cycle. not that i am not going to do it, but just feel that right now i want to know what my natural limits really are and wait until i have have a better base to begin AAS. I still got the blood tests. will post soon
before i knew any better i considered a dbol only cycle, that was before i found eroids and was still dumb enough to spend money at GNC. you WILL see results from a dbol only cycle, and as soon as you stop you WILL loose it all. keep in mind dbol gains are mostly water weight, its like creatine on steroids in a way. though dbol is very beneficial if using test also, alone you'll just shut down your hpta and be bloated
my first experiance ever with steriods was a dbol cycle. did 30mg ed for 5 weeks. felt great. had amazing gains. didnt bloat too much. within 2 weeks after i lost easily 25% of my gains and felt like shit. within 6 months i was back to what i looked like before, still feeling like shit to boot. needless to say i was like "fuck steriods they suck and only work while your on it". now its been a few years and i am reading and learning before i do my first "Real Cycle".
1-5 25mg dbol
1-10 600mg test e (300mg twice a week)
aromasin 12.5mg eod (checking bloodwork to make sure my estrogen levels don't get too low)
PCT
clomid & nolva
seems to be pretty safe and also should get big and strong and keep most of it.
i will never consider dbol only ever again nor will i ever advise anyone to do it. it fucking sucked afterwards. wanted to eat a bullet i felt so bad.
just my .02
i have yet to do a cycle and have been wondering about dbol only or test only for first one. i have heard all the stuff against dbol only but i have also heard many people who have had good long term results on it so i will be interested to see how it goes and will follow your thread with interest. Keep it up!
mick118you seem to have done plenty of research which is a good start.
Firstly you will get shotdown hardcore on this site for even daring to mention oral only. This is because test will give you WAY better bang for buck.
I have done a dbol only cycle with similar PCT. It was not my first cycle either.(my country is the hardest place to get gear in the world and it was all i could get at the time)
IF you work your ass off , depending on how close you are to genetic limit you may keep 5-7 pounds of muscle for a moderate amount of time. Maybe less, maybe more - evryone reacts differently as we are all a little bit different.
htpa will be shutdown 30-50% on that dose based on a medical study on dbol i read a while back which i can't be bothered digging up.
I don't get any sides on 20 dbol/day only PROVIDED i eat very clean. slight bloating on 30(Apart from nut shrinkage).
Remember long term without gear(1-2 years +) you can only maintain slightly more than you genetic peak(due to muscle memory IMO)
I wont critisise you for this cycle as I have done it myself. but dont be expecting 20 pounds of lean mass. If you are expecting this then get some test + dbol(my first cycle and i turned out just fine. )
Moreover i welcome constructive non-abusive disagreement
56tooYou seem to be a very determined young man. You've done a lot of research but seem determined (stubborn as hell LOL) to do what you want to do. You posted this on here to try and find justification for what you want to do and it failed to bring about the results you were looking for.You remind me soo much of myself in my youth,
My advice to you is to use your intelligence, set aside your stubborness and do what's right.There is a wealth of information on this site. Many of these people have a lot of experience doing what you want to accomplish and KNOW how to do it AND the advice is FREE.
If you clear the shit out of your head and listen to what you're reading, there is no doubt in my mind you will go very far in life AND do it in good health. Good luck
Well said brother,i have been watching how this post would go without jumping in too fast.The post has you say has been well put together by him "but"you are correct in saying "it is a justification" of oral only use,no doubt he will see a gain "but"it will all dissappear very fast after cycle.
I hope he takes good advice i for one feel it is my responsibility to try to keep these young guys has safe as possible +1 to you for trying to put sense forward
56tooThanks man.
biggerthanyouI would rather cut my balls off than run this cycle...
Nobody ever said dbol only wont give you gains it will. Quality maintanable gains no just aint gonna happen. Do you know whaan hpta is. Do you understand that dbol will shut your testosterone down do you realize what that means probably not you will see. For your healths sake and your sake i hope your dbol is bunk.
h23arany steroid after prolonged use will shut down your hpta. thats why there a place for proper PCT.
But your body needs testosterone and about a week taking dbol your t levels will be near zero thats the part i dont think you will understand symptoms of low t suck and are very counter productive.
Silly boy, you put it in your ass not your mouth.........no homo.