+ 3 First cycle (WARNING)
When I was 20 years old. I ran a simple first cycle of test E 600 mg a week. I gained approx 25-30 LBS in 12 week. A little fat and water. I was more than happy with the results. After completing a under doesed pct. I lost it all in 2 months. I looked way worse then pre cycle. I was as small only with some extra fat. I had blood work done 3 months after. Showing my test leves basically at zero. And estrogen leves was high as ****. I developed gyno. And it took over a year to get back to normal.
So if you're desiding to run steroids. Adjust your mind to be ready for all of the side effects. Accept them before you inject you're self. Accept that you might end up on hrt/trt for life/gyno/depression/mental addiction.
This is to encourage young/inexperienced/curious people to do research, and be aware that the side effects are very real. Its easy to think "hey, im only doing 500or whatever mg of test. And every body else is running all this other stuff. So I dont need to go all out on pct". Yes you do! Do youre research and do it properly. Otherwise, chances are you going regret ever sticking that needle in youre ass.
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True! .... Mental addiction can be a huge problem. I had a friend that ran 3 long cycles with only taking a month off inbetween and swore he's a user for life because he went from a little wimp to being jacked in a year and a half. Everything was all good until he realized he can't get his wife pregnant and went into a deep depression. Fortunately he eventually quit juicing and had a kid 4 years later.
Everybody is different, not everyone can handle the roller coaster of cycling. Being that not everybody's body can recover fast even with the right pct
Im still pretty new to aas but since I have been using them my life has become so much better. I always ate pretty well but now I have become so in tune with my diet. I feel healthier than I ever have and im 41. My relationships have all improved. Life has been good. That said I understand we are all different and my experience is different than others. But what I believe made the difference was I did not wake up one day and decide to do this. I spent an awful lot of time researching every angle I could think of that had to do with aas and even when I started I discovered things I hadnt thought of but was able to correct them because I planned EVERYTHING out. I think that if a person is responsible and treats this like something that can permanently fuck you up it can change your life for the better.
noguruThats true! Nice to hear someone who did it properly from day one. Props to you.
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Check yourself before you inject yourself.
For many, this is simply a matter of pragmatism, and not an unwanted life sentence as such.
No one who isn't transitioning wants that, yeah.
An old friend of mine.
You read that on some government funded medical website? Or is your 20 year old self telling me that he personally became addicted after his one cycle?
I'm all about education and responsibility. Fear mongering? Not so much.
NotNatural23Mental addiction is real. I have had a couple friends who when off cycle are messed up and jump right back on cause they think they are small and these guys are big. It is real but some get it and some don't it is all genetics everyone has a gene which can make u an addict. If u had previous addiction problems the aas will probably make u have a mental addiction. Just like weed some people can just quit and others struggle. Now weed isn't like hardcore drugs nor aas where it can lead to robbing and stealing. It could I should never say never but most likely NO. If you research do ypur homework on aas and no what to expect and use in safe doses then you should be fine. I am not trying to put fear into people but I guarantee if people on here are real with themselves some will admit the mental aspect to aas.
noguruSo very true!
Sounds more like body dysmorphia than addiction, honestly. Chicken or egg argument.
Hello, my name is Trenallday and I am mentally addicted to anabolic androgenic steroids.
And vagina.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=TRw_P2b4OLI
noguruHahaha I love this
NotNatural23Yea. but that is considered a me tap illness like anorexia. U could say they think they need the aas cause they think they are small until they get back on then they feel normal again. I don't know how u could classify it but to me it has some sort of mental addiction. As much as I think they are safe anything can be like that. Not trying to disagree I think it is a good topic to talk about. I know me personally I feel look better on a cycle but I won't stay on cause I know the down falls of it. I am on trt though but it isn't from aas. Never had the balls to try aas until I was 33 and that was almost 2 years after being on trt. I was always scared of needles. But love these kind of topics on of my minors in nursing is addiction. It runs in my family.
Nope not at all accurate.
When done RIGHT and RESPONSIBLY you can experience little to no sides at all. Never running into depression, Gyno, trt, etc.
You did them irresponsibly at an age far too young and had to learn the hard way.
This post is exactly why 20 yr olds get so much shit when they post a would be first cycle, in hopes they think twice ( most don't ) but all we can do is try
But your broad statement is very inaccurate to say the least.
Sorry you had to learn the hard way, but again, done right, you can have a successful and enjoyable experience using aas responsibly ( done in moderate doses n time frames with correct ai, pct, knowledge of compounds etc)
NotNatural23There is a right way and safe way and he did the wrong way and the dangerous way. Aas can be very safe if done right u get bloods and know your body. Hell it is probably safer then most supplements people take.
noguruI totally agree with you
Pharma clomid during PCT did contribute to severe depression for me, I feel. That's one thing that I found to be unavoidable.
Mood during pct could be better but I don't get super depressed like you say. Moody at times though
Clomid is a bitch for that
Its why its so important to avoid crashing estro too on pct by combining ai and serms (in my opinion)