posted Fri, 10/26/2012 - 19:23
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First cycle! Looking for a gtg!
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Will be doing my first pin cycle soon and trying to get an a-okay from the vets!
Week 1-10: Test E 250 at 500mg/week
Week 1-14: Aromasin 12.5 EOD
Week 10-14: Clomid 100/100/50/50
I have Nolvadex on hand if any gyno / estro sides happen to occur and I'll probably dose higher on the Aromasin also.
I'm hearing HCG shouldn't be needed for my first pin cycle? I've previously ran a Superdrol clone cycle of Methastadrol with nothing but that and Nolvadex.. I was pretty stupid. I'll be drawing with 23g and pinning with 25g 1"
Thanks again guys!
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Sd is oral steriod..not PH..AND its actually quite powerful and harsh..some love it some hate it..same thing with dbol or anadrol..both have fans and haters..people respond differently to different compounds...your most likely fine hormone wise nc your oral only cycle was short and you did some sort of pct....and lastly at 19 yrs old...the amount of Test your body produces is approx equal to 300mg shot per week all natural...so hey do the math..whats natty @300 per week times 52per weeks in a year..vs 500x12 then only producing 70mg per week after for remaining 40weeks bc you stunted growth..its really no comparison ...300mg per week all natural..vs the average 12week500mg cycle...your natural test production is much higher..safer...free..legal...its endlessly better..no gyno..no injection infection risk...I mean really at 25-27-30...we are today just imitating by use of AAS ..what 18-19-21 has naturally!
Best of luck!
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zewiEverything has been said.
If you were 25 id say yes. Work hard there is plenty of time for AAS.
cdaddy7Here's my take...do u like ur ability to acheive an erection and have nice libido? Do u ever consider being a father one day? Do u plan on living a life with hormone replacement? Well here's ur decisive point lil brother....ur natty production is through the roof at this point....I see that u have played with prohormones a little but I suggest u leave it all alone...this kinda of early jump can lead to really bad train wreck with ur name all over....u want to be big? Eat big!!! U have the natty production alone to make this happen...what about ur training? Is it optimal to go with ur diet...gear is not ur answer at this point...25 yes mayb, but now not happening....u are going to ruin ur nuts and end up with low T and all nice little permanent side effects to follow u all of the rest of ur days....hardwork and diet is ur answer and nothing else....no steroids, no prohormones....just plain old diet and training....stop playing with fire right now bc u will get burned....
I appreciate the replies and the advice. I'll give it 2 more years and I'm hoping my last prohormone cycle didn't do too much to me. I haven't gotten blood work done or anything. Can someone give me the differences of PH sides vs. Gear sides? Thank you.
Leave ph stuff alone, bad idea, very bad idea. With research, you'd know this such I'd encourage you to read up some of the ph horror stories that you can easily find. You should have done this before you used it, especially at such a young age.
Wait 2 more years will make you 21 - still too young, slow down. This isn't a race. You're in too much of a rush, which is an approach that won't work out well for you in bodybuilding. You should be thinking 25ish. You should be able to get to 180lbs+ naturally through diet and hard graft.
Yeah I understand. I'm just hoping my previous first PH cycle didn't do any damage because I feel fine at the moment. I knew of the risks of shut down, liver failure, pituatary gland stopped producing, gyno, hairless, the works. I went ahead and finished it up and then did my PCT of Nolvadex for 4 weeks. I put on about 26 pounds and kept 10 but it was through a dirty bulk.
Okay sdrol is like a shtty version of anavar with harsher sides and it really doesnt "bulk" like they say but it def gives you gyno. I've even heard of cases with prolactin gyno from sdrol now others would disagree but I think it's very obv. You see supp companies have a "proprietary" blend. This means they can put what ever the f*** they wanna put in it and not tell you. That said PH's can actually be more dangerous to your health than regular steroids. And don't confuse them PH's ARE STEROIDS, just crappier versions that are "legal" but soon to be illegal
Age 19 then definitely not good to go. Why are you loking into AAS at such a young age? How long have you been training? What is your diet like? I am telling you from my own experience that if you start AAS at such a young age you are in for serious problems down the road. Here are a few reasons why you shouldn't start AAS. Using AAS at your can screw up your hormones for life. At your age test levels are extremely high to begin with and taking AAS can affect those levels when you come off. Starting AAS at your age will surely mean that you will be on testosterone therapy at a young age. Lets not forget about the possibility not to have kids. Your body has a long way to go before you stop growing naturally, with some hard work and a little bit of patience you can possibly reach your goals without damaging your body. Looking at your stats, that tells me one thing your diet is off, what you need is a good diet. A good diet will pack 10 lbs. on in a month and as long as you stay focused and keep training that weight will increase along with your bodies development. AAS is not for you, not yet at least.
Backing you all the way on this advice Logan. +1
At 19years old and 10stone, eat and train. You've not got enough experience of either yet to even consider using gear. That's the only cycle you need.
X2 on every single word brother.. i hope he takes your advice here at 19yrs old and 10 stone (140lbs) the only way is up with great diet and training...juice would be just like throwing a grenade at his HPTA and watching the bits hit the deck... he needs to forget about "ARNOLD" at this stage and become more like "GORDON RAMSEY"..meaning become a master in the kitchen... as you well know that is where this journey starts and ends... NO OTHER OPTIONS
Age - 19
Height - 5'8
Weight - 140
Body Fat - 12%
Your to young and your not done growing, I know you don't wanna hear that but can't you at the very least wait two more years? Other point is at 140 you just need food.. If you work in your diet correctly you'll blow up huge.. I truly believe 2 more years of hard work outs and experimenting with your diet will put more weight on you than just jumping into a cycle or two each year by the time your 21. Just trying to be honest
I wanna add, food is the fuel.. Steroids are the nitro in your engine.. Now we know nitro can blow your engine out and wreck it? if you put nitro in a car.. But your not giving it enough fuel.. Well it wont make it really far =/ At 140 your not putting enough fuel in the tank.. If you take this stuff and your diet isn't set you just wasted money and your health. Your not going to pop back from this like you did on a 4 week PH cycle. I urge you to spend the next two years fixing your diet then looking back into this.
Good stuff!+1
Good stuff!+1
NOT a good to go! Stats please Age, Ht, Wt, BF%.