posted Fri, 06/16/2017 - 07:07
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Hi, I'm doing a first Test Prop cycle of 12 weeks. Now I've ordered Test Prop and NPP to continue.
I do not understand anything about using Tamoxifene Pos cycle.
Do you take it during the cycle or at the end?
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backonroidsFair point mate ,but better advise would be - don't run a cycle with out the knowledge or correct pct
I 100℅ agree mate this guy has to be a troll. at first I thought he was just stupid but some of the other comments IV read the guy can't be serious
backonroidsNot sure mate .. everyone would already know my answer to this
PRkPPGuys are a beginner. Before I did two Test Prop. Cycles for 12 weeks. STOP. No PCT, nothing.
I had good results. Now I wanted to intensify with Test Prop and NPP.
Never done a blood test, NEVER.
I want a tip if I'm doing good or bad. Tips on PCT?
Some of you may not understand, or this shit put you on your head.
you advise pct of tamoxifen only?........ seriously?
you advise a pct of 6 weeks following a phenylpro and prop cycle?...... why?!
I don't see a problem with nolva only PCT IV done a couple of cycles in the past and found I recover perfectly fine with nolva only. Also the guy said he only had nolva on hand so I would say that advise isn't to bad but just my 2 cents. I know this guy has been a fool and even jumped on a few of my comments before but I wouldn't say it's fair to neg the guy for that
Complete your stats. You may have recovered well with Nolva only, but you can't recommend, or even suggest anything other than what is standard protocol here at Eroids. We like facts, not opinions!! And, we like to see new guys follow our guidelines, too. We appreciate your interest in helping maintain solidarity, while being logged in and active on this site. Thanks!! Welcome to Eroids...
Will do bud but currently in contest prep at the mo about 9 weeks out this will be my first show so bf will be constantly changing over the next few months. 100℅ understand my bad! I'm an active member here and have helped out quite a few guys with some good info. I realise I should of known better. Will follow protocols in future.
Thank you, sir!
Ill give you a plus back if you can explain why nolva only will help this clueless person recover from a 19nor and prop.
I didn't even realise he was running npp. Should have read the post properly. First cycle shouldn't be running a 19nor should leave for at least 4th cycle. But as the guy stated above he doesn't have any AI or clomid just nolva on hand. I'd say helping out with a nolva dosage is better than not helping at all. I agree the guy is clueless and shouldn't be running anything at all but he will go out and do it anyway. PCT is a major part and I was stating that IV recovered fine from nolva only pct. but would normally do a 5 week PCT with clomid and nolva but this guy has none.
True regarding 19-nors and first cycles...:)
Please explain why "the 4th cycle" would be indicative of incorporating a 19-nor? Shouldn't that be relative toward goals, body composition, cal/mac plan, bloodwork, etc?
We would like to get your input, please? Thanks
100% depends on all of them factors! I feel that first 2 cycles should be test only cycles then third possibly add in an oral depending on goals preferences if bulking add in dbol or anadrol if your looking leaner gains then possibly tbol or anavar. 4th cycle again if looking to bulk and don't mind holding water test and deca. Then 5th cycle again bulk cycle for example possibly add the oral to test deca cycle. I'm a firm believer in seeing what works well see how you recover after PCT and judge what caused what sides during the cycles before adding in extra compounds.
True...always tweeking and refurbishing the cal/mac plan...gracias
PRkPPDo I need Tamoxif and?
You need more research done thats what you need. Head over to the pct section of this forum and read until your eyes bleed before you come back and say
"I has need help, I no do pct and now I cant have sexytime with girlies, can you persons help me do this now?" Everyone say to me to research and I no need for the research and now my pen eye wont get rock like in my teens.
If you ever want to see your dick again I suggest you go to the pct forum now and not later
PRkPPOkay, Professor is what I'll do
RustyhookerDont preach crap on eroids. Do it right ....
be happy with your negging
no matter what I write I get negged!
Ok.
Well... you wrote shit advice, so it sorta makes sense not to reward it and to point it out
I'd be much happier reading great advice or a great discussion on pct in general, but that doesnt seem to be you
mate I think he will just use nolva... and so I gave him MY advice, and I know a lot of guys they run nolva 5-6wks. why? cause you will notice the positive effects of nolva after 2-3 weeks but to achieve a lasting effect without recidivism, nolva needs at least 4 weeks! I know everyone from us has another knowledge about nolva but that is what I confirm and often heard/read! So don't think I will give wrong advice mate
If you gave him YOUR advice, its best to not give advice at all.
RustyhookerDont comply with a newb.
Well since you chose heroine....here's your cotton balls and spoon.
Teach em proper. If they dont listen....its on them
He needs a hell of a lot better advice than to run nolva. So according to you he will be good to go running some Nolva. That is pretty horrible advice given the circumstances here.
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Doing a cycle, bits already ordered.... and you know nothing about PCT?
alriiiiighty thennnnn
srt8caliseems like you know absolutely nothing
You need to write this in a more clear manner. Nothing after "Im a new member" makes much sense. People will help... but cant if no one understands what you want help with.
PRkPPI changed. Thanks for help
I'm going to need a translator.
PRkPPI changed. Thanks for help