First cycle advice thanks guys
Hey:
So a little background, i'm late twenties, 180lb, pushed myself pretty hard in the gym for a number of years and i'm doing a small cycle as my first one, and hopefully only, to get rid of some nagging injuries and help correct some muscle imbalances. I have some issues with tight joints and muscles and some small strength imbalances on one side where I suffered a shoulder surgery. I've already done months of physio.
I plan on doing this clean, mainly to rehab and I don't want to gain much weight.
I was going to run:
Test 150mg / Deca 120mg per week for 10 weeks..
& my vitamins, vit-d, b complex and tyrosine
& eat clean, work hard, concentrate on physio and rehab before heavy weights.
For PCT I was going to taper my Test for 2 weeks and run my tyrosine dose higher. I'm hoping this is enough as my cycle is pretty light.
I'm looking for any tips, advice or ideas to help me out. I am sort of concerned about how long deca stays in your system, and i'm also a bit concerned about side effects (shutting down, post-depression etc). I've also got a friend helping me if needed just thought i'd see what others might say. Thanks again.
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All good advice BUT HOW TALL BRO? If you're 6-2 & 180 you don't need gear. If your 5-4 & 180.....huge difference. It's not magical.
zewi"It's not magical." what this is not jack and the bean stock.. fuck...
Im 5-4 still........kicks rocks.......
cdaddy7I concur, only run test e and i would run at 400mg a week which Is conservative and much beneficial for a first timer. Would consider a low dose ai right off the bat to maximize ur gains and reduce the sides. U want to put off the gyno train for as long as u can bc once it starts its always there. I would consider only goin 8-10 weeks max bc that's more than enough time for ur plasma levels to saturated and for u to actually notice the diff with size and gains combined. And no matter what a good pct is required unless u want to lose most of what u gain and really become discouraged. There is a science to using ass, It's not just plunging a few cc's in ur ass and miracle appears. It's a combination of diet, training and proper use of the steroids which synergistically creates the perfect anabolic environment in which u become the beast!!!
The reason you need to run a Test only cycle 1st is to find out how your body reacts to test. Running deca and test at same time you will not know what side effects to treat if a problem comes up. If it was me I wouldn't run a cycle with that low of a dose but even at those doses I would still do a 4 week nolva clomid PCT.
zewi"I'm looking for any tips, advice" Do more research And listen to what Logan & SDM said.
If you were doing research and reading you would understand what you just posted is not very good, and at those amounts you will not really get anything from it.
Also again read what logan wrote: "Run a test only cycle first, this is steroids 101." If you done your research and read everything on these forums you would know that and understand why.
"I plan on doing this clean, mainly to rehab and I don't want to gain much weight." That's fine, However at 150mg test your really not helping your body, your just going to shut down your testis. And possibly DECA DICK(that's when you cant get it up)
OK before i rage and Nice uncle zewi goes away. Please read some more come in here with a better cycle, and understanding what an AI is and how a PCT works. And i and many others will be more than happy to help.
Along with everything SDM and logan said, Deca is a 19-nor and will shut you down pretty hard even at a low dose, and could make recovery a little bit tougher. There's just no need for that on a 1st cycle, as you will already benefit greatly from a Test only cycle if everything else is in check. Take it slow bro, you'll look back later and be thankful.
Run a test only cycle first, this is steroids 101. You need to see how your body reacts to it. A dose of 150mg is to low the minimum should be 250mg/week. and go no higher then 400mg/week.Regardless of what you use you always need pct. Clomid and Nolvadex are what you should take. Week 1&2 take 100mg/clomid and 40mg nolvadex,weeks3&4 50mg clomid and 20mg nolvadex. This will get your natural levels back to were they should be. Steroids could help your strength problems but also could hurt. Sometimes your muscles get stronger faster before your tendons do and causes problems so don't go to heavy at first take it slow. I would run a test only cycle for 8 weeks see how that works. Test and deca is a possibility for a second cycle, the deca will help with joint pain but pain from surgery might be out of the realm of any AAS.Time might be the only help with that. Any more questions you might have just put them out there, that's what we are here for. Good Luck.
zewiGood stuff +1 from me.
Thanks brother
I'm guessing you're thinking of using Deca due to the injuries you mentioned? I understand why you may have come to that conclusion, but not sure I agree with the two compounds on first cycle, most if not all will suggest a pure Test E cycle first time around.
I'm sure some of the vets will give you a more experienced opinion than I, but I'm not sure I like the sound of it to be honest. I don't want to see you overdoing it on gear and not listening to your body when you've had an injury. Take it from someone that's had a serious spine injury, you need to be very careful and know what you are and what you're not capable of before using gear. Deca, in particular, can mask pain / discomfort.
For me, do 6 months of training without the gear first. If your mind is made up and you're going to cycle, lose the Deca and just run a Test E cycle. I'll let some of the vets comment on your Test dose, not sure what you'll get out of 150mg/week.
Good luck bro.
zewiAgain good stuff +1