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Ok. So I'm 32. I have currently lost about 60 lbs on a low carb diet bringing me to 206 lbs. I go to the gym almost every day and I'm currently on 250 mg/ test cyp per week for trt. I want to add more and need advice on what to add. I was thinking running test e 300mg once a week with the test cyp and running winstrol 50mg eod the last 6 weeks of cycle to lose extra fat. After cycle I will remain on 250 test cyp a week until next cycle. Advice please and all is appreciated. Thanks in advance.

whoremoans's picture

Guarantee you'll be satisfied with how you look once you hit a bf of 12% and that's without aas. When you lean out and feel the need to put on more mass then aas may help assist you but I'd strongly advise to go natty for 2 more years and light that gym on fire with explosive workouts. It'll be worth it trust me. Use any aas now and I promise you'll be disappointed.

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Catalyst's picture

Having looked at your before and after pics, firstly well done on the weight loss. I'd suggest to you adding more AAS would be a bad call at this stage, your BF is still too high at over 25%. You're on an extraordinarily high TRT dose already, no need for you to add anything too it and quite possibly cause you some difficult to correct problems if you did.

TheFatKid's picture

What dangers are there with a higher body fat? My logic thinking is that if I build more muscle it will help me burn the fat in the long run. But that's just my thinking and could very well be wrong lol.

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Makwa's picture

Much greater chance for aromatization and therefore gyno for one. Your body is also much more efficient at building muscle with lower bodyfat. The fatter you are the more likely that a greater percentage of your cals will be converted to fat instead of going into lean tissue building.

https://www.eroids.com/forum/general/general-talk/scientific-proof-lower...

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Ooooh. Thanks for that info. So do you think I should just keep low carbing for awhile and focus more on cardio or what?

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Makwa's picture

As long as you are slowly dropping the fat I would just keep doing what you have been doing. It has taken you quite a long way so far so keep sticking with it. Start trying to drop weight to fast and you start sacrificing muscle along with that fat. Not ideal because you will be wrecking your metabolism that way. Shoot for about 2lbs/wk. That is usually pretty safe. If things are stalling add in some more cardio first and then think about cutting carbs further if need be.

ransta's picture

Detox
Drop weight
Mind muscle during this period
Learn to eat to grow.carb morn.protein bashn at arvo
Thrash out creatine
Earn your natti plato

Test.e 12w

This is the road not everyone takes but prepares you for beast mode and growth and a mind set in getting dem gains like a mofo.

My first coarse was straight deca..didnt even know what deca was till down the track and a blown to fuk system..

All the best

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Stats
Age: 32
Height: 5'8
Weight: 206
BF:

Good advice below. First cycles should be one compound. Test Enan/Test Cyp. Standard dose and frequency is 500mg/wk for 12 weeks. You will need an aromatase inhibitor...exemestane/arimidex.

What are ur signs and symptoms of high estradiol? Do have acne, oily face, back pimples, or sleepy during the day?

Congrats on weight loss and meeting goals. Sixty-sixx pounds is a good chunk of weight! U have before/after pics? How long did that take?

Post diet and workout....welcome to EROIDS...

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I have mild back and chest pimples now on 250mg a week. I have just been eating super low carbs and high protein. Alot of meat and stuff like almonds and peanuts for snacks. I have been slipping a little due to the holiday season but I'm pretty good about getting back on track fast lol. Where do I post my before and after picture?

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MedDx's picture

Go to blue arrow up.top...then go to submit...leave face out...

Do u have an AI on hand?

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I posted a before and after btw

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MedDx's picture

Thx...saw them...agree with guys up above too...

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No I dont.

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TheFatKid's picture

Building muscle and mass is my ultimate goal. After losing the 60 lbs I feel like it's time to start putting muscle back on. And I have already but need more lol

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The Impastable's picture

These guys have you covered. I would heed their advice brother, they're some of the best guys on this board.

Makwa's picture

You are already on a cycle at 250mg/wk. Is that amount prescribed by a doc?. Never seen an amount that high for trt. Winstrol isn't going to help you burn fat either, it is not a fat burner. Fat loss comes down to diet. Steroids are not fat burners. What is your current BF%?

BigThing's picture

When I went to one of those well being clinics just to get a blood test as it was dirt cheap with a coupon I had, they wanted to put me on 200 cyp a week plus hcg. These places are very shaddy. When I asked the woman about infertility, she said not to worry about it bc thats what the hcg is for and I will be able to concive a child whenever I want to. Total bs just to snatch your $$$

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Yeah its prescribed. My dr likes to keep my levels high. I'm not sure what my bf% is lol. I'm new to all this. But can definitely tell that my body is taking a different shape in the gym with the trt treatment

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IrishMack's picture

Your dr prescribed 250 a week and did not give you a physical and bloodwork? Thats very odd.

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He did blood work. At the time I was seeing another doctor for trt and my level was 1300 I believe. I can't remember. He gave me a compounded test cyp from a compound pharmacist and bumped it up from 200 mg/ a week to 250. But he never said what my bf% was just told me all my other numbers were great and to keep on it once a week

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IrishMack's picture

1300 is 200 over max level. IMO drop it down a little 320-1100 is the average range. 1100 is a 16-24 year old boy young dumb and full of cum. My endo wants me close to 1100 but not at that number, he likes to see 850 since im in my 40's

IrishMack's picture

Is this an endocrinologist or a well being doctor in other words a trt clinic.

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It's just a family doctor I was referred to by a friend of mine. He said he absolutely loves hormones and he does all kinds of research and attends big conferences all over the United states for trt replacement and other hormone stuff I guess

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IrishMack's picture

Make an appointment and get a complete physical and also a bf test. 250 a week is a cycle and if you are over 20% bf you could have issues regarding your health. Just because you feel great on the outside does not mean your insides arent getting hosed. Unless its 250 every 2 weeks then that sounds a little more plausible.

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I will. I go back for blood work in a month or so. It's usually pretty thorough. Isn't there a way to check my bf%. My scale reads it but I don't really believe that

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IrishMack's picture

ask one of tje trainers at your gym, they should have a caliper or a bf measurement guide for you.

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I Will as soon as I'm over this cold. Should be back at the gym tomorrow but we will see

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IrishMack's picture

Keep us posted, give us the exact number so the help we give you will be accurate.