posted Sat, 11/21/2015 - 12:06
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Ending compounds and when to restart TRT
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Currently on 50mg EOD of Test Prop.
Starting blast/cycle on Monday
1-15 Sust 600 mg
1-13 Deca 400-450 mg ?
1-5 Dbol 50 Mg ED
1-15 Adex .5 mg EOD
My question is when can I restart my Prop TRT? Right after cycle or do I wait a certain amount of time?
Also, since I'll be going right back to a TRT dose do I still have to time the ending of compounds or can I just run throughout? As in running Deca 1-15 instead of ending 2 weeks before the Sust?
Thanks in advance!
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Forgive me for not commenting back right away. Sorry for all the confusion, I wouldn't consider it TRT, just basically a TRT dose, which I have only been on for a couple months just to have a slight edge having not been on anything in awhile. If I did decide to go on TRT which there would be no need for me to do I wouldn't do Prop, even though I don't mind the frequent injections and I react much better to than cyp/enan.
When could I start PCT or a cruise, 3 weeks after last sust injection? Also, do I have the ending of the deca correct?
Do you ever want to come off?... after this blast you will have been "ON" for 6 months so why bother coming coming off ever!!....
Have you ever ran PCT protocols before?.....
Do you believe that your "cruise" is giving your body recovery time?.....
Yes. That is true, good point, I think I'll def opt for PCT after this.
Yes, this will be my 6 cycle or so and I ran PCT will all of them.
It's going to need one hell of a pct to get back to normal after 6 months on non stop.
His mind is already made up imo about staying on permanently, 32 and ready for trt lol. It's the yolo element, could of pct'd away for the next 10 years at his age before even considering trt, now it's nailed on trt for life.
Try and start again to convince us as to why you've posted this.....
Why and who told you to take Test Prop as a TRT medication? Or is this just what you think should be run as a TRT? If so then your pissing in the wind.
Why are you contemplating TRT? Is there such a reason that you can't get your own test back in production? Because if your DR was to give you advice on running TRT it wouldn't be by using a very short ester like Test Prop as this would mean pinning almost everyday which in turn will lead to a high build up of scar tissue and also you could be subject to infection if you keep pinning the same site...
Have a rethink and then come back to us
-Whats the length of time you been on TRT?
-Test Propionate isnt used for TRT.
No mention of a DA in your cycle plan. No mention of bloodwork. No mention of a Liver Protectant.
If you cant run with the big dogs, you might wanna stay on the porch....
This is fishy......... prop trt and a first attempt at a blast ?....... nah im not convinced this kosher
My question is when can I restart my Prop TRT? Right after cycle or do I wait a certain amount of time?
Also, since I'll be going right back to a TRT dose do I still have to time the ending of compounds or can I just run throughout? As in running Deca 1-15 instead of ending 2 weeks before the Sust?
What you need to do is learn all about ester half life's and the answer would be very easy for yourself to figure out.
Our question is why are you using prop for trt?
As far as when you start trt, it does not really matter. Your test levels will drop fast when you dont take any shots, and drop slow if you do prop EOD.
check out steroidplot.com you can see a graph of what your test release rate is.
And our question is why are you calling a permanent cycle trt?
50mg EOD is 175 mg a week, a fairly normal cruise dose. just not a normal cruise ester.
Are you forgetting about halflife? 50mg eod he still has prop in his system when its time to pin again, prop is out fully after 3 to 4 days. So 50mg eod would equal about 230-260 depending on metabolism and where the injection is.
Irish, every compound has a halflife, and we compensate for it with our pinning frequency. I'm of the opinion that 175mg a week of prop is just about equal to 175 mg a week of test e or c. Pinning frequency will decide how much you peak and valley.
So you apparently feel Prop leads to more mg, Tread-M believes that prop leads to lower mg's
https://www.eroids.com/forum/general/general-talk/test-prop-and-counting...
I think Mg's are mg's and we just compensate for the ester with our pinning frequency.
The difference is I have been doing a shit ton of research on the actual scientific effects and half lifes as well as absorption rates versus cycle and stacking e.t.c The thigh is the one place that has the lowest absorption rate regardless of esther. The fastest is the deltoid. Metabolism and bloodflow have a dramatic effect of how long it takes to also absorb as well as fat. Yes 100mg of prop is 74mg but it is still in your system for 3 days. so a 50mg injection will ramp due to the halflife not the total esther or the mg. However small it still peaks high and stays high after about 2 weeks of eod injections. It will hit a peak and drop but each injection after will keep the ramp at its highest peak, therefore 230-260mg. Those little graphs and excel spreadsheets are not accurate at all because that would assume everyone is the same which is far from the truth. That is why we always say Blood tests are your only conclusive proof of what it is doing in your body. You might do this cycle and have 175, and I could do it and have less or more.
steroidplot.com illustrates it well. prop 50mg EOD gives a release rate of 25 mg a day average, test e 150mg E5D gives 22mg a day average release rate. Prop has more test, gram for gram the Test E,,, so that explains the slight difference.
Definitely not prescribed trt, so why go that route at 32 ? That's a lot of pinning, trt is like herpes, it's for life bro... have you been doing this prop trt thing prior to cycle or were you planning on starting?? If you were planning on starting, don't. End cycle n post out.
Prop for TRT? pin cushion.... meet scar tissue
Eod pinning on trt??? Scar tissue, not to mention how fucking annoying that would be... bad choices were made here .
How long have you been on your self prescribed trt?
Lol...that's exactly what I was thinking, just didn't say it.
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32
6 foot
200 lbs
What is cycle history? And doctor gave u prop 4 trt, hmmm?