Doing the right thing... looking for your guidance before I screw up on my own lol
I am still on week 5 of my TestCyp 400, TrenE 400 cycle. Its going great. Yes I have caber, adex and all my pct ready. I am all set with this.
My supplier in town is leaving and is offering me lower prices on everything so I want to buy my next stack for this coming Jan/Feb. I have a competition in May of 2013 so I want something that will add lean mass but not as much as Tren has. I havent seen too many sides other than hot flashes, waking up an hour after going to sleep and thinking its 8 hours later, and anger.
My history is im 24, 6'3" 245lbs now and 10.5% now, mid cycle. I have done 4 total cycles with: EQ, TestCyp, Win, Tren and Sust. My diet is fantastic just cant seem to eat enough but I DONT CHEAT.
I was thinking:
Week 1-4 Test Prop 400/wk
Week 1-16 Test E 600/wk
Week 1-16 EQ 600/wk
Week 16-18 Winstrol 50mg/day
Week 16-18 Test Prop 400/wk taper
Let me know your thoughts, I have never tapered or used prop before but I heard its good pre comp and I already like EQ
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Anonfyi .. the reason you are having so many tren sides is because of your test/tren ratio. You should be running test much lower than the tren. You are actually wasting your test.
He was running 600 te 200 tr and was half way through his cycle i leveled his ratio out to 400/400 just to complete the cycle safely,if i had dropped his test further at this stage he would have hit the deck hard... thats the reason we are were we are here lol... the aim is to get him into pct stage fast then have him running something properly put together.
That whole Tren/Test ratio thing is really tricky, and seems to depend on genetics and other factors. I've seen different people respond in different ways. There are some pros who don't use an test at all for 6-8 weeks at a time, and there are others who run 5000 mg. of test per week along with Tren. I'm still trying to figure out what works best for me in that regard.
True brother,i run better on low t higher tren... problem with the guy involved here he was already mid cycle having serious probs and he tells us now the new ratio has sorted him out and feels a whole lot better... in truth i want him to get to the end of this run and leave tren out for a good length of time before he touches it again.
got cha vike, next year I am planning on a 18 weeker before my comp then doing a 20 weeker towards the end of summer to bulk like hell
Anonsorry, not trying to trump you at all, but it is not obvious from his post that this was a different ratio.. I did see that he was complaining about the tren sides hence my response taking into account his stated dosages. My bad for not getting the entire story.
Ahhh no probs grrrl he had a post up last week and this is the outcome of a patching up job that had to happen to stop him from binning mid run... lol this was a sort of DR vike to the rescue thing lmao! like goth said the test/tren ratio is a mystery which i hope to spend the next 20yrs on testing all theories lol.
I think the cycle you have listed is spot on for a lean style bulk with a nice hard clean finish... it does not need changing in any way bro... i think i spent more time with you than my freinds here so have a little more idea about your comp goal... hows the new diet going bro! water? better without the massive adex dose?
so you think no mast,primo or var? Obviously not all of them but I am worried about win drying my joints, especially my knee (4 surgeries) prior to comp.
I really appriciate the time, truly do. Nothing but respect for you all. Well, this is my 2nd comp. The first one I did was when I was 18 and pre gear for me. On or off gear I add weight fast, both good and bad weight. So I want to keep my strength but add lean mass to me. I anticipate dropping to about 230 post this cycle of tren. I want to stay around 235 but would love to take my bf to 7-8 range. I am at 10. I know its cardio and diet which will always get tweaked to work for me but I lose so much strngth and energy when I slash carbs. I noticed when I was on EQ my endurance and sirations in muscles were up, obviously from increase in red blood count, and I liked that alot. So to sum it up... need to add a little bit more lean mass, lose a bit of bf and keep strength up.
As far as my current cycle, damn dood you saved me. I was so fucking depressed and loaded with anxiety that I literally was just miserable all day and night. I wasnt suicidal or anything but holy shit did it take a toll on my psychie. Based on what I learned i think it had more to do with too much adex than anything. But I have been losing water weight. I am still holding something but not much maybe 5lbs rather than the 10-15 I had before. Its hard still to get 450g of pro but I am at 415-440 a day so its there. My lifts have been rising and every damn day looking better than before in the mirror. Thanks man
Glad to hear it helped bro.. swap winny for var if you have concerns about dry joints... and no need for primo or mast yet.. learn these compounds WELL before you start stacking things you have no idea about ok or you will end up in the same position has last week wondering which compound is causing issues.
I can tell your keen but slow the fuck down a bit bro there is no rush lol.
zewithere you go.
I dont want him playing with mast at this stage bro..plenty of time for that later.. compounds he has listed here are all clean for his purpose... dosage is right for his body weight also.. i have him eating better so this should run to his goal.
Sweet! That's why your the master!!
zewisounds good to me brother.
zewiWhat are your goals for the next cycle?
Said he has a competition and thinking test/eq with prop kicker and taper as idea. If he runs that for comp it might be better on low test/high eq 300test/600eq. Mast and var as finishers with that taper. Whatcha think?
See this is what I am talking about ^... thanks man... I have never used mast or var. Whats your experience with it? I am loving tren for now but I have to avoid adding too much mass for the comp. I add weight really easy, I mean really easy so lean slow gains, ie EQ, are ideal and then something to cut at the end like var might be good
zewiYep.. i just didn't no his goals, what he really wants. If you no that its easy to get the right stuff. But we were going down the same path.
ight let me clarify. I am doing a competition in late May. I will be done with my current cycle in early November. I want to keep my strength up but focus more on lean solid steady mass like EQ provides. I add mass really easy, both fat and muscle so need to avoid that. I am also looking for a compound to add towards the end that will help me cut. I have used win but it can destroy my knee (4 surgeries). I have never used mast or primo and have heard those thrown around but again I dont want to jump into too many new things to fast... lemme know what you think
Viking competes every year. If he's pming you and helping...please use his advice. He does this as a living.
He certainly knows how to transform people,two of my girlfriends who have trained for years have switched to bodybuilding training with us and already have made great gains,one of them is planning to compete next year she is doing so well.