posted Tue, 12/12/2017 - 19:31
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I will be starting my first cycle soon (test e and tren ace), and was wondering if I should use the time to bulk and gain size and symmetry, or look into doing a show during or shortly after finishing.
I will be doing Classic Physique and am 6'1 and 215 at around 11% And I believe I need to be under 220 at weigh ins. (I could be wrong)
Any input would be greatly appreciated!
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Managed to get halfway through the first line before I said Jesus christ - Tren ace on your First cycle when you don't even know what being on a basic cycle even feels like - Are you for real??!
Please reconsider. Tren on your 1st cycle is a very bad idea.
Test only for 1st cycle brother. 500mgs of Test E a week max for 10 to 12 weeks. Run some proviron @50mgs a day as well. If this is your 1st cycle you will be amazed at the results. Do your research on AI to control estrogen during cycle and have your PCT ready for the end of cycle.
RustyhookerNot good choices.
basskiller89It sounds like you’re already there
Why are you going to mess up your body to try gain 5lbs of muscle? Just show up shredded. Everyone knows conditioning wins
Rustyhookerfirst cycle soon (test e and tren ace
Bad ideas....
basskiller89That’s what I’m saying
He’s already at stage weight without gear lol
Why would he attempt a cycle, I don’t get it
RustyhookerClassic physique is what...6%...where the bodybuilding show is sub 5.
11% to 6% is 5% or roughly 10lbs. I think if hes aiming for sub220 on stage that hed be too light. Id think that 235 at 11% then cut and hed have a better shot. But ya, if hes in awesome condition.... he would be a force.
Id use this year personally to use simple test and foods. Less stress and mass loss if he aims a lil higher.
basskiller89I hear that too actually, just habit to say no need lol
A little test could bring him up to 235. Drop down to 6% and he’s right there at 220. Depending on when weigh ins are: worst case he has to dip below 6% to make weight and then use some clean fat sources to gain it back. Or pull water, but I think I’d opt to go sub 6% and then kill some almond butter or kick back a few cups of olive oil to get back up to 6%
It doesn't quite work like that. Pounding a couple cups of olive oil over night is not going to magically put bodyfat on you overnight. Most likely just make you sick and shitting your pants on stage. It would also be foolish to try and add bodyfat for a show.
basskiller89I strongly disagree with your logic that lipids in the blood stream will not be pushed into fat cells. It’s a fact the blood stream clears itself with and without insulin. The difference in fats and carbs being that once carbs trigger an insulin response that’s the amount of insulin secreted. Added fat or protein in the bloodstream will ensure the insulin does not store all carbs which will leave you with elevated blood sugar levels. Your body then primarily uses glucose in the bloodstream rather than muscle tissue until the bloodstream is cleared
I’m not advocating this protocol to make weight but it’s fact you will gain fat very quickly if you decided to drink oils
If you can gain 2lbs of fat overnight from drinking a cup or two of olive oil, more power to you.
RustyhookerAgree with shitting on stage. Basskiller is a troll. Goes from making 20 posts asking bullshit questions to suddely advising drinking oil.
Obviously, dudes never been irradiated for a test. And drinking the oil prior.
basskiller89You’re right brother my bad
BP is giving me issues since letro
Been on edge all day
Dr said it’s fine but if it increases any I’m looking at diuretics at a first attempt to lower
RustyhookerWhy diuretics? You hold that much water? Use dr if you attempt. You could have 1-2 punch and can die
basskiller89Letro brough my diastolic up from 70 to 80-85. My systolic is still sitting at 120-130. She said monitor it for 3 weeks and if it stays where it’s at we won’t use meds to lower it. It it raises any she mentioned diuretics as a first attempt. I don’t think I’m holding excess water bc my e is about 15. She’s aware of my protocols. I would re explain the situation and opt for ACE meds should my bp higher any
RustyhookerNot a worry. If you have a dr doing that level of assistance, youre doing great. Had to ask because a lot of folks dont and then when the chest pains start....lol.
basskiller89I’m with you brother lol
basskiller89There’s no need I agree with you
Much easier protocols to make weight
"I will be starting my first cycle soon (test e and tren ace), "
How about NO!
No way should a person ever even consider running tren or multiple compounds for that matter on a first time cycle.
I would probably get at least one solid cycle under your belt first before doing a show. It is going to be confusing and complicated enough on its own just for the prep and now you are throwing in a whole new unfamiliar process of cycling, your head might be spinning. Learn the nuances of cycling first. Site rotation and how to pin multiple spots, what pip feels like and how to deal with it, how you react to test, your sensitivity to estro conversion and use of ai, bloodwork etc. etc. To much going on with a first cycle and first show combined.
Get your first cycle info from Bill Roberts? He recommends tren for a first cycle. Only authority on the matter I can think of who does so. I do not, but I’m no means an authority. Next best thing is the majority, all of whom, notice, strongly advise against anything other than testosterone for a maiden cycle.
I'm just going to parrot the same advice already given. But as someone whose first cycle is still relatively fresh in my mind I would most definitely advise not running Tren or anything else on your first cycle aside from test. I could give you a dozen reasons why but a big one is that you have no idea how you're going to react to testosterone. If you suddenly flood your body with it and another compound then start to have negative side effects how will you know what is causing the side effects? You add one compound at a time after you have the first one testosterone dialed-in that's with dosage and with your AI. I dont use tren but from what I've read its an animal all its own. Unlike any other anabolic. Really not the 1st thing you should start off using
No way bro! Tren on first cycle is a big no no,
I’ve ran multiple cycles and still have yet to try tren.
I would just stick to test only for first couple of cycles
Don’t do tren for your 1st cycle bro... read this & please research some more. If you run tren your 1st cycle, you could ruin your competition.
https://www.eroids.com/forum/steroids-qa/steroid-cycles/first-time-cycle...
Hello Sir,
As @Bearded_muscle mentioned below the substances you have chosen for your first cycle are a very poor choice Sir. I will tell you what will more likely happen to you.
Your body composition will probably change and you more likely be impressed but a month later you will be back on the eRoids forum complaining about low sex drive, ED problems, gyno etc as we see this daily due to lack of knowledge.
If that's the choice you have made to administer AAS hormones, do yourself a favour and do a research on a safe way to run it. You will save yourself so much time once you educate yourself and find the right approach.
We are all here to share our knowledge and experience, eRoids community will guide you the right direction therefore do not take anything personally as we are here to help. After all it is your call - whether you choose the safe way we recommend or stick to your own way.
Hope this helps Sir.
Regards
Your first cycle you’re going to run tren? You’re in for a world of hurt my friend.