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Deciding which cycle is best to cut with on first cycle

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I am currently on my first cycle with test 400(12 wk). Going on my 4th week and the results are really good and noticeble. I've been researching for which cutting AS to go with. Heard/read good and bad about all of them, but trying to decide which is best to go with.

Winny, tren, mast, anavar, DNP, HGH.

Looking to see which is best to combo with my current test 400 cycle, with moderate to low sides, preferably low.

If there are any posts, pages, or articles that can help me with more info on this, could you please post. thanks!

Age: 27
Height: 6'0
Weight:199 lbs
LBM:182
BF: 9%

Nitti's picture

Your body fat is already excellent. I'm at 10% right now and if I cut anymore I'm certain I'd feel like shit. Unless you are competing and making a living doing this, why would you need to cut anymore? At your height/weight, you should be looking to bulk IMO. But as for the answer to your question ,....I could run deca and cut. It has everything to do with diet. Compound selection plays a very small role. Yes some steroids are better for different goals but the fact remains. I would stay away from dnp. You flat out DONT need it not to mention its an unnecessary danger IMO. You are on your first run with AAS! Just stick to the game plan. Next cycle maybe increase your test dose and run a short ester test kick/taper. Winny, mast, tren, var, all good compounds for someone who has a good handle on their body and how it responds to testosterone only in different ester, doses etc. Sounds to me like you are looking to maintain your bf. Not cut up. And the last thing I want to say, keep tren off your radar until you get some experience with other compounds under your belt.

Iron_Addict0929's picture

Ok, enough is enough with the term 'cut cycle'. Steroids are used to build/perserve lean tissue, not burn fat. Some research points in the direction that tren has fat burning properties, but it's NOT a drug for novices. There are a variety of steroids that compliment each other and will amplify muscle building results (not fat loss). The results depend a lot on the Anabolic/Androgenic ratio of what your using and what you plan to run in synergy. Again, that's proper stacking and is not for beginners.

What's wrong with cutting on test? I've done it many times with a good diet, cardio and AI. This is your first go around, I wouldn't be eager about jumping into some of these things head first bro.

Above, you say you want low sides but then mention Tren and DNP. Those both have relentless side effects, you shouldn't even be considering tren at this point. And DNP along with other uncouplers are very dangerous. Finish your test only cycle and enjoy it. Do things right on the diet and cardio front. Don't be eager to rapidly introduce whatever slew of chemicals, that you may have heard works well for this or that.

Not trying to come off like a dick by any means, but I'm the same age as you and have many cycles under my belt. Hind sight being what it is, I may have done a few things differently.

Catalyst's picture

Your bf is 9%, what do you want to cut for?

On your first cycle I wouldn't recommend adding in another compound, you need to see how you react to the full cycle first. If you introduce a second compound, you'll find it hard to differentiate the effects when reviewing your cycle.

redskins32's picture

My experience is as follows. I had great results with winny but it absolutely KILLED my joints. I also had great results with mast prop but my hair fell out faster then my black labordor retriever. I took tren for about 5 weeks started to see some really great gains but I felt like I was on the edge mentally and in my line of work that mentality could result in BAD situations. DNP I saw results but not to where I thought I was going too and the night sweats were unbearable. I REALLY liked Anavar. No sides other then cramps and really got great results out of 5 weeks. Never tried HGH but the fact that you would need at least six months to really start seeing effects I don't think that would be a good idea to add to your cycle.

crayon's picture

I've heard alot about anavar and alot of people have seen good results with it, also its known for having low sides.