Dbol/Test E/Test P/Deca
I listened to you guys in regards to staying off tren for a while, I was that close from buying that stuff. A few of my gym buddies recommended I try it. Then again, I have a 80:20 ratio of gym buddies that do and do not know what they are talking about and so, pinch of salt was taken. And I decided to get more input. And I did. So cheers fellas.
Upon revising my cycle. I've come up with this...
Week 1-4: Dbol @ 60mg ED
Week 1-4: Test Prop @ 100mg EOD
Week 1-12: Test E @ 400mg E3D
Caber @ 0.5mg EOD
Arimidex @ 0.5mg EOD
PCT to follow 2 weeks after:
Nolva @ 40mg for 4 weeks
Clomid @ 100mg for 2, 50mg thereafter for 2
Test booster if necessary
Stats:
23
12.5st
2 years training
Diet strictly sweet potatoes, wholemeal rice and pastas, cottage cheese, chicken, turkey, eggs, yoghurt, lean beef
On hand, will be. All of above and nolva and clomid.
Now, I mentioned deca didn't I. And to be honest, I'm not too sure where I place it into this cycle? Now, before anyone says it shouldn't be. It doesn't have to be there, I'm quite happy without using it. I know I should be using with testosterone, but what's the ratio? Say I'm pinning 400mg Test E E3D, where does the deca fit into this. I'm guessing highly that it will tip the ratio in the favour of Test E but just how much?
So, if it doesn't belong there. So be it. Second cycle and all.
What do you think to my front load? Get the prop in there for 4 weeks until the test e kicks in. Sound good? Less? More?
I think I've covered everything. If I haven't, let me know.
Many thanks.
DD
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Why are your shooting Test E 400 mg EOD ?? And your test Prop at 300 mg EOD? Is this a typo ????
RustyhookerI dont think ya realize the amount if test without Esters attached when you plotted this cycle. Bigger isnt better. Basically your grabbing a fifth of Jack when 3 beers will completely do the job.
1-4 dbol 25/day
1-12 test e 500/week
13-14 prop 100eod...pct 2 days after last prop.
A superior cycle...IF diet is on par.....
1-12 provi 25Mg/day up til pct
1-12 test e/cyp 500/wk split
IF YOU PROP KICK/TAPER...100eod is plenty. Study test and SBGH and you'll see why the smaller cycle is superior. Report your findings here....
Your right man, I did. Silly little errors, I'd of no doubt spotted it further down the line before I got on cycle.
I'm looking to kickstart/front load my cycle this time around. 100mg EOD would be 400mg a week. I were thinking of the actual amount and not what would be pinned! And that's great.
So..
Week 1-4: Test Prop @ 100mg EOD
Week 1-12: Test E @ 400mg E3D
Week 12-13: Test Prop @ 100mg E3D
PCT 3 days later.
PCT..
Nolva @ 40mg
Clomid @ 100 for 2 and 50 for 2 after
Sounding better this time around lol?
AnonI did this cycle and loved it, nice steady gains with minimal sides. Only difference was i pinned test e mon and thurs and ran adex 0.25 eod from week two. Keep the diet clean and you will grow well
Excellent. And yes, I will be including Anastrozole for definite. Thanks for your support mate
RustyhookerLots better. A basic ol test cycle will keep you growing with no worries. Give you time to perfect diet and wven more...learning new/adjusted diet to keep gains after cycle.
Remember ai on hand. Bloods at week 5-6 to adjust ai as/if needed.
Please read provi stickie top if one of the forums.
And in regards to shbg. Your saying high estrogen levels will cause it rise and the more it rises, the less free test becomes available and thus, minimising gains.
And high test equals high estrogen which increase shbg and reduces free test. But doesn't the androgenic properties of test decrease this?
RustyhookerYou're pumping in hormones. So if your natty level is 500....on cycle even with liw doses you'll be triple that number or MORE. So your body is always fighting to keep normal balances. It's going to work to get equilibrium. One way to do that is binding. Estro conversion is really dependent on the person. Yes, it will convert for everyone but at what levels? If ya scan forums you'll see there's guys that run your above cycle and blood test shows then in normal estro range. But then there's the other extreme where guys HAVE to run letro just to do a light cycle.
But definitly don't underestimate the power. Guys on trt with no natty test run 100Mg a week and bloods come back at 600...example. So being young...it doesn't take much.
Sorry rusty we posted same time.. Get him straight cause his cycle is messed up way to much test
RustyhookerDon't apologise bro. It's all family here. Jump in :). If i miss a clue...you fill in.