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Cycle with HGH

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It was suggested that I post my next cycle here.. so I'm going to postthis with hope of any experienced users can provide feedback, or any suggestions to help me along the way -- now what I do NOT have planned is a good PCT -- not sure what to take and when..

So for the cycle

  1. HGH -- running anywhere from 3.6-5.4iu of real (humatrope)
  2. test cyp weeks 1-10 at 500mg
  3. Mastoral (by alpaha pharma) 30mg a day for weeks 1-6
  4. Anavar / weeks 6-12 at 50mg a day
  5. winstrol weeks 11-16

PCT help?

any suggestions on the cycle

I'm 6 3-- 225lbs -- athletic build / skinny legs so all upper body.. just looking for a good solid mcycle, lean muscle, no bloating, no jacked up look

appreciate any/ all feedback!

thanks!

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EQ has a very long ester and takes a very long time to build up in your system. I front loaded for two weeks for my current cycle but EQs magic won't show until those later weeks which is why 16-18 weeks is recommended. 20-24 weeks is even better but not advised unless you're a trt guy.

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As far as doses, I know you laid out compounds used but not dosages. What do you normally run test at? And what dose did you run EQ last time? Personally I'm running EQ higher than my test but I'm not comfortable advocating doses until I know what you're already comfortable with.

You want to run test two weeks longer than the EQ and start pct two weeks after the last test shot. (4weeks from the last EQ shot to allow the ester to clear your system) if running orals at the end for 6 weeks, start them 6 weeks before pct and run them right up till pct. discontinue EQ 4 weeks from pct, test 2 weeks from pct, orals can be discontinued day before. Understand?

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Make sure to get all your items, gear, ancillaries, and pct items all before you start your cycle. I cannot stress this enough!!! There are delayed packs ect and you don't want to be stuck waiting for things to come in when pct time comes round.

EQ is definitely a slow builder but quality muscle so you'll like that. But 400mg is too low IMO. I don't want to get flamed by other guys for advocating higher doses but id say 600mg / week is minimum. I'd go 800mg personally. 600mg test is good. I'd go on the higher end of the test dose because it will be utilized better because of the gh you're using. Something to do with gh creating more receptor sites for the test to dock at.

Look at my original post at the bottom. Everything you need for pct will be in that post. Another tip, if you do plan on running the EQ test cycle for 18 weeks I suggest using hcg through the cycle to keep your engine running so you won't be completely shut down for so long. 250iu 2x/ week starting around week 3. Blast 500iu EOD last week before pct.

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- K A P S I Z E -'s picture

If you don't want to run a longer cycle, which is essential when running EQ, then as I said before I would recommend masteron. It is available in enanthate so pinning 2x /week in the same barrel as your test would be fine. No more pins than you're already doing.

My recs
Test + masteron 12 weeks var or winny finisher

Or

Test + EQ for 18 weeks var or winny finisher

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Is it possible? Yes. But IMO your just wasting drugs. I'd stick with one or the other. As far as your precious question is concerned about another long ester... I wouldn't run primo unless you got a wad of cash burning a hole I your pocket because pharma grade primo is expensive stuff, has to be run at a fairly high dose and for a long period to get the most out of it. If you ran EQ already and loved it I would just do that again. Test EQ for 16-18 weeks and run your gh all the way through and continued after, you will be a lean mean muscular machine. As far as ancillaries and pct I already touched on that below

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Take the brand names out.

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Ok cool. Some people just think hgh is cycled. Lucky you that you has the means to run hg gh for that long.

Pinning is just part of cycling, unfortunately. But taking orals shouldn't be the answer to less pins, IMO. I would keep the orals to 6 weeks at the end. I would keep your winstrol shots for another time, even injectable winstrol will strain your liver since it's still a c17-alk compound, and run the anavar 50mg/ day for 50 days at the end. Cyp can be shot 2x/week. Instead of taking another oral I would stack another long estered inject along with your test in the same barrel so no additional shots are required.

What compounds do you have experience with? I'm running EQ with my test and love it. But 10 weeks is no where near long enough for eq. Masteron enanthate would be a good compound for your goals and pinning tolerance. But I can't give more information without knowing skittle more about your cycle history

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Previous cycle history? What cycle will this be?

Do you have enough GH to run well past the end of your cycle? Like 6 months.. GH isn't like AAS, you don't cycle it. Either you're on gh or you're not.

As far as the cycle, what's the reason for dropping anavar and switching to winstrol? Unless you already had a bit of both. And that's a lot of time on orals. 16 weeks out of the cycle you will be taking oral AAS? Not the best idea IMO. If running var and/or winny out to 16 weeks. Run the test cyp out to 14 weeks. And I'd choose between var or winny. And save the other for another cycle, just my .02.
I'm not familiar with masterol, I'm assuming some kind of oral kick start like superdrol. I'd maybe rethink the cycle and instead if so many orals stack another injectable like masteron if your looking for that chopped up lean look and drop a lot of the orals. Keep either var or winny at the end.

As far as pct, the standard pct advocated on this board is:

Clomid 100/100/50/50
Nolva 40/40/20/20
Aromasin 12.5/12.5/6.25/6.25

(Personally I don't like nolva and choose to use toremifine instead because it's a much much better drug IMO)

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